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    He's hot & cold about closing the distance

    This is my first post, I'm not one to post on forums, but it doesn't seem to be something my friends and family can really help with. So who better to ask than people that are going through similar situations. Here's my story.

    I met my boyfriend August 2014. We work for the same company, have the same position in our corresponding cities, so we met at training. I'm in Chicago (27 years old), he's in NYC (24 years old). We had both just gotten out of long term relationships, for similar reasons, the spark just wasn't there anymore with our exes, and we gravitated towards each other. We had been visiting each other monthly from October 2014-April 2015. While we were exclusive, he wasn't comfortable putting it on social media, referring to me as his girlfriend, because he wasn't in the place to want to commit to a serious relationship. Long story short, the summer was rough, he went out and basically left me for someone else but would keep telling me he loved me and how he wanted this to work. Then in August 2015, came out to visit me again and apologized for everything he put me through and told me he was ready to fully commit. And he has since then. I'm officially his girlfriend, it's out there for the world to see, and I feel like I can trust him again. We've seen each other every month since August again.

    For the first half of our relationship, he was on board with moving here. He applied to a job in August (after we reconciled and got back together) and made it seem like he was really going to give it a shot. He got cold feet and didn't follow through. He stated that he wants to make sure we can make this work again before jumping ship to Chicago, which is fine, I agreed to it. Then a few months later this past November, he told me he needed to try, if he didn't try he would regret it. He never did. And anytime I would bring it up myself, he would be defensive and say he just doesn't want to be pressured right now, but yet he would randomly bring it up himself, but words not actions. Now, being that we've been together and solid for 6 months, I want to open the conversation up again and come up with a plan. But when I do in the slightest, he gets weird and says he just doesn't know if he wants to move for me, he still is unsure if I'm the person he wants to end up with, and he won't move unless he's sure. The conversation has been all but stalled the last few months. He cites that he needs to finish paying off his debt (goal of November) so he can improve his credit score and be more secure in moving anywhere he wants to go, buying a house, car, etc. Which I totally understand, but at the same time ... he can't handle the distance. Every few weeks he shuts down and is upset about missing me or not being able to do things with me that other couples do, so it gets him into this spell where he wants to end things, but he doesn't. Then we see each other, and it's good again for a few weeks. But the constant thought that he's going to break up with me over the distance is an uneasy one.

    It seems like he has this inner battle where he wants to take the risk and move, but he continues to make excuses as to why this relationship cannot be successful. It doesn't help that his parents are against our relationship and constantly tell him that he needs to cut his unnecessary expenses down (being me). And they are super controlling on his life right now since he took out a loan from them to help with his debt. Reading some posts in here, I see people doing the LDR for years before closing the distance, and I think I can survive until next year if he needs to get things done to better himself, but I don't know if he can. One minute he's on board, or he wants to make it work, the next he wants to basically end it. Back & forth is becoming stressful for me.

    I guess I am stuck between the following scenarios. Do I let it ride out and see where we are in a few months? See if things progress naturally and the conversation is brought up by him again? Or do I be more assertive and let him know we need to figure out what we are doing and put a timeline together? It seems when I bring it up, he gets defensive and feels pressured and shuts down, but at the same time ... I don't want to just be carrying out this relationship until he gets bored and decides to end it. I feel like after dating a person for basically a year, he should have a better idea of if he wants to make this work with me in the future or not. And that is the part that I can never understand if he wants it. If I tell him I need a timeline is it going to spook him and make him run? So many scenarios play out in my head and I just don't know the best way to handle this.

    (side note because I saw a few other posts that asked this question ... it's always been him moving to me. I have a 6 year old daughter, and me moving out of state would be a lot more difficult, though I have never said I wouldn't. Also Chicago is a cheaper cost of living and my family is supportive. Just wanted to clear that up before someone asked me why I can't move there )

    Any advice on my novel of a story would be greatly appreciated

    #2
    He needs to stop messing you around. SO has always had the thought of wanting to come here, but unfortunately because of finances (income requirements for visas) it'd be impossible. However I've never minded where we ended up as long as we are together. I am moving to him. We both have kids it's easier for me. I think you should talk to him about what he wants to do. Because honestly if he is just going to break your heart, it's better to get it done with sooner than later. I'm not sure I can offer more than this as this is how I see it but someone else will probably be a long soon with some better advice.
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      #3
      I think you should stop putting pressure on him and give him some time; he's clearly not ready yet. One fallacy that people often believe is that an LDR needs to be closed as soon as humanly possible, but people aren't necessarily ready to do that right away. You've been together all in all like a year, right? See where he is in 6 months. Being patient can avert a huge disaster if someone moves before they're ready. A year really isn't that long, some people just need more time than others. Also, he should probably get his loan to his parents paid off first, it's better for him to move without that hanging over his head. Good luck.
      Our separation of each other is an optical illusion of consciousness. ~Albert Einstein

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        #4
        Originally posted by Moon View Post
        I think you should stop putting pressure on him and give him some time; he's clearly not ready yet. One fallacy that people often believe is that an LDR needs to be closed as soon as humanly possible, but people aren't necessarily ready to do that right away. You've been together all in all like a year, right? See where he is in 6 months. Being patient can avert a huge disaster if someone moves before they're ready. A year really isn't that long, some people just need more time than others. Also, he should probably get his loan to his parents paid off first, it's better for him to move without that hanging over his head. Good luck.
        I agree, part of me sees that putting pressure on him isn't going to help. Like you said, he's not ready right now. I guess I just have to have faith that we can sustain longer, even though sometimes it seems like he wants to throw the towel in because he hates that I am so far away, but if it's really meant to be, we should be able to hold on a little longer. I just get nervous that he will choose to break up with me because it's easier then holding on ... but if he does that, then that means it wasn't worth it to him, right? Thanks for the reply.

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          #5
          I went through a similar situation with my SO, for me it wasn't so much about putting pressure on him to ask me to move (we decided I would move to him) it was more about knowing it really was something he wanted. We both agree that we are not ready to close the distance, but I wanted some assurance that he wanted it as much as I did, even if it's not for another 2 or 3 years.

          When I asked him why he always changed the subject when I mentioned moving, he explained that it was because he wanted it so much that talking about it just frustrated him. We agreed to live in the moment as much as possible and enjoy what we have now. There are some good things about being in an LDR and I am learning to be patient and enjoy things the way they are right now.

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            #6
            Originally posted by JeanJean View Post
            I went through a similar situation with my SO, for me it wasn't so much about putting pressure on him to ask me to move (we decided I would move to him) it was more about knowing it really was something he wanted. We both agree that we are not ready to close the distance, but I wanted some assurance that he wanted it as much as I did, even if it's not for another 2 or 3 years.

            When I asked him why he always changed the subject when I mentioned moving, he explained that it was because he wanted it so much that talking about it just frustrated him. We agreed to live in the moment as much as possible and enjoy what we have now. There are some good things about being in an LDR and I am learning to be patient and enjoy things the way they are right now.
            Sounds like we can relate to a lot. I think that is how my boyfriend feels right now, that he would love to just be able to be in the same state and it's frustrating that it is unrealistic right now. He also always tells me to just enjoy what we have right now and if it's going to happen, it will. It's not always settling for a planner like me, but I have gotten better trying not to focus on the future so much. An internal battle, but I think it has helped our relationship to not continue to discuss closing the distance when it's just not in the cards for right now. Thank you so much for your reply

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              #7
              Originally posted by HeartIsInNY View Post
              Sounds like we can relate to a lot. I think that is how my boyfriend feels right now, that he would love to just be able to be in the same state and it's frustrating that it is unrealistic right now. He also always tells me to just enjoy what we have right now and if it's going to happen, it will. It's not always settling for a planner like me, but I have gotten better trying not to focus on the future so much. An internal battle, but I think it has helped our relationship to not continue to discuss closing the distance when it's just not in the cards for right now. Thank you so much for your reply

              You're welcome. I am also a planner so I really can understand how you feel.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Moon View Post
                I think you should stop putting pressure on him and give him some time; he's clearly not ready yet. One fallacy that people often believe is that an LDR needs to be closed as soon as humanly possible, but people aren't necessarily ready to do that right away. You've been together all in all like a year, right? See where he is in 6 months. Being patient can avert a huge disaster if someone moves before they're ready. A year really isn't that long, some people just need more time than others. Also, he should probably get his loan to his parents paid off first, it's better for him to move without that hanging over his head. Good luck.
                I wish you could tell my SO this, Moon.

                I agree about the pressure thing, but I also feel you on the whole wishy-washy, back and forth crap. That's pretty much how my SO is, but his is due to Mental Illness (PTSD and Depression) and overall commitment issues.

                I'm sorry I don't have much advice to give, my SO is the one what wants us to close the distance ASAP even though neither of us are financially ready, as well as in a good place in our relationship (because of his whole wishy-washy thing). I can only offer a hug .
                Last edited by whatruckus; February 23, 2016, 05:39 PM.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by whatruckus View Post
                  I wish you could tell my SO this, Moon.

                  I agree about the pressure thing, but I also feel you on the whole wishy-washy, back and forth crap. That's pretty much how my SO is, but his is due to Mental Illness (PTSD and Depression) and overall commitment issues.

                  I'm sorry I don't have much advice to give, my SO is the one what wants us to close the distance ASAP even though neither of us are financially ready, as well as in a good place in our relationship. I can only offer a hug .
                  My boyfriend has commitment issues as well. He's been burned in the past and is afraid of getting close to anyone. He denies his emotions which in turn effects us. He also has a mother that is just verbally abusive to him sometimes and controlling. She has ruined most of his relationships as she hates all his girlfriends and gives him such a hard time about it, causing us problems. It's frustrating to love someone with baggage sometimes, but we all have it

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                    #10
                    Giving things more time sounds like the smartest move here. That not only gives him time to come around to things and feel truly ready to make this big change, but it also gives you and the relationship time to mature and grow. It seems like he needs time especially with learning to be more emotionally avaible and honest, too. All of those are things you can actively work on, bit by bit, and your relationship will be stronger for it when you eventually do know how to close the distance. All the best!

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                    It'll take a lot more than words and guns
                    A whole lot more than riches and muscle
                    The hands of the many must join as one
                    And together we'll cross the river

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                      #11
                      I'm surprised that no one has mentioned that moving is freaking scary! I've been with my boyfriend 2.5 years, we both are very sure that this is "the one", and we've been actively trying to close the distance for a while (most of which is due to me putting pressure on him). I totally get where you're coming from, but even after two years my SO hesitated moving here because he would be leaving his home and everything behind. That's scary for everyone! Now, the tables are turned. I am moving there next year. I am so excited, but I'm also really freaking scared. It's a big deal to leave my family and friends and everything I know behind for a whole new life. Your SO won't have quite the culture shock that I have, but he will still be leaving his whole life behind to start new with you. If you two have had a rocky past, I can understand why he isn't quite ready to give everything up to be with you.

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