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    Need some advice--visit my boyfriend or a male friend I can see once for a long time?

    Hello all! This is my first post! I've just found this forum, and I'm sure I'm going to be checking it out a lot from now on. But first off, seasoned long distance relationship-ers, I need some advice.

    Some background info: I'm American, and I spent all of last year living in England (before I met my current boyfriend.) While there, I met a guy who I started out being close and very platonic friends with. At one point, he started to like me, though at the time I didn't like him back so nothing happened. There was a period in the middle of the year that we thought neither of us liked each other, so we hooked up...all the way...as friends, for fun...whatever. It was just what happened. Later in the year, I realized I DID like him and my feelings had grown very strong, but he didn't feel it. (Of course.) In the midst of all this, and due to both of us being very immature and making mistakes and not knowing how to deal with various things we were feeling, our friendship was on the rocks for several months and we both emotionally hurt each other very, very much. (What happened is very complicated and that's the best way I can simplify it.) It was very unhealthy for both of us, but mostly me. And very, very hurtful. When I left the country this past summer, it was on good terms, and I vowed to show him we could remain friends because he still meant a lot to me as a person, especially since he had plans to come visit NYC (this March, as in now) to visit his sister who lives here. We are still very much alike, have a lot in common, and enjoy each other's company (as friends.) We've kept in sporadic touch since I left.

    Not long after I got back to the US, I met my current boyfriend. We've now been together for six months--it's great and we're very happy together. Currently he lives about 9 hours away, though that distance will close to about 4 hours because of a job I'm starting soon. (Yay!) We had tentative plans to see if we could get together during the first week of April for a couple of days if our schedules allowed, both so I could see him (duh) and get some skiing in before all the snow melts away (he works at a ski resort.) However, I just found out a couple of days ago though some Facebook probing that England Guy will be in NYC that week, for ONLY that week. And the same few days I was thinking of going to visit the ski resort are also the only ones I could theoretically go back to NYC and see my friend for. So. Oh boy.

    Let me put it out there that I have NO intentions whatsoever of cheating on my boyfriend. I love him, and am very much over England Guy. But I do want to catch up with England Guy...he was a very important friend to me for a while, and I feel not only that I wanna catch up and hang out, but gain some closure, and kind of show him how well I'm doing and how much better I am than I used to be, and that I have a boyfriend who loves me and all that. Also, he's my friend who I just plain miss! He has a sort of complex about friends not staying friends and being untrustworthy, and I wanna show him that I CAN be a true friend as I always said I could, and meet up with him while he's in NYC like I promised. I feel by missing this opportunity to see him (likely the only time for a year if not more) no such closure or anything could ever happen.

    I talked to my boyfriend about all of this tonight. (He knows most of what happened with me in England.) We are generally very supportive of each other having friends of the opposite sex, but I suspected he might feel differently about this situation because England Guy and I have a history. After I proposed the idea of postponing our visit for a week so I could go to NYC, I told him over and over that it was extremely important to me not to hurt him and I wanted to make sure I had his full go ahead to go to NYC before I did so. At first he said that I should go and do what I want and that he was mostly alright with it, but I could tell he was feeling more than that, so I kept on questioning him until he admitted to thinking it was weird for me to want to go get closure and be friendly with someone who had hurt me so badly. He says he trusts me, but I think it makes him feel weird and slightly uneasy regardless. I told him over and over how much I loved him and how his feelings are so important to me and for him to tell me if he was really bothered by me doing this. He kept on saying that it was my decision, that he didn't want to be part of the decision making process, and that if I wanted to go I should but he didn't want to hear anything about it. Generally, the whole time he really didn't seem like he wanted to talk about this and that I should just do what I wanted and that he didn't want to hear about it.

    Well! Now I'm all conflicted. I really want to see England Guy cause he's an important person in my life I want to stay friends with, but my boyfriend means so much to me and I so don't want to unwillingly hurt him. He says he's generally alright with it, but I'm worried if I go to NYC he'll be hurt and won't tell me about it. Our conversation left me quite upset, and now I'm less sure of what to do than I was before we talked. I think if I don't go to NYC, I will really regret it, because that will literally be the only time for me to see my friend for a long time. So I'm leaning towards doing it...but I'm worried about my wonderful but emotionally repressed boyfriend...please, LDR-ers. Any words of wisdom?

    #2
    1. Have you kept in contact with England Guy? If you only found out that he was in NYC when he was by Facebook stalking and he didn't tell you directly, then I wouldn't go.

    2. I also wouldn't go because I'm fiercely conscious of my boyfriends feelings. To some extent and he's realistic about it. If I have to work alone with a guy on a project at school, he just says to have my guard up and try to avoid working on it in their dorm room, which is normally quite doable.

    3. The fact that there's a history (hook up, weirdness, etc) would give me further reason to not go, personally, if that happened to be the case for me. I've only ever been with my boyfriend, except for my first two kisses, so I don't have a history like that with anyone but him.

    4. Also, it looks like for the outside anyway and maybe from your boyfriend's perception as well that you're choosing English Guy over him. Something I wouldn't do, personally. I get a chance to see my boyfriend I take it, don't give it up for anything.
    ". . . We obviously have to come to accept it, but that doesn't stop it from gnawing at us day by day.
    The best we can do is enjoy our time together, anticipate our reunions, and remain passionate and loyal through distance." ~Mike <3



    ~*~11.21.2010~*~

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      #3
      Yeah I have to agree with Mikesgirl... if it was me, I wouldn't do it. My boyfriend would see it as me picking someone else over him, which I'd never do. He's number 1 in my life. Actions speak a lot louder than words. You can tell your boyfriend that you love him to the ends of the earth, but if you don't show it, those words are meaningless.

      If England guy is just some person who you keep in contact with here and there but aren't really close friends with anymore, I wouldn't go. He hasn't even directly come to you and asked to meet up with you, you just found out through FB. I mean what are you going to do when you go to NYC? What are you trying to prove to him? And why? It means you still care about him/have feelings for him or you haven't seemed to let go of the past. If you truly have moved on, this idea wouldn't have even come to mind.

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        #4
        "I don't want to hear about it" usually means "I don't want it to happen, please let me pretend this isn't happening." imo anyway.

        It's a bit sticky. If you didn't have so much history with England Guy I'd be all like "bros before hoes, go see your mate." buuuut... I don't know, something about this makes even me uncomfortable so I can't imagine how well your SO will take it.

        Also, England Guy is only coming for a week, would he want you infringing on his family time?
        Happily married to the little Canadian boy I never thought I'd meet in person

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          #5
          Since I can't sleep anyway...

          -By "Facebook probing," I mean I went and asked him when he was coming to NYC and then he told me, saying that we should hang out. True, he never sought me out to tell me on his own.

          -He has other friends in NYC outside of his sister, and I know he's going to be spending some time with them, so it's not ALL sister time.

          -Ughhhh and that's JUST what I'm worried about, MikesGirl and Zapookie. I guess for this one instance I AM choosing my friend over my boyfriend...but just because this might be the only time I get to see him for like, two years. Otherwise I would never ever do it. I've just never been in this situation before, this is my first serious relationship, and I can't seem to decide what's "right" and what's "wrong."

          Now I'm leaning towards NOT doing it because I don't want my actions to say that I love my boyfriend less than I actually do. But at the same time I really want to see my friend! Ughhhhh now I'm just stressing over it haha

          Also, it would just be putting off the visit by a week, so it's not so much the visit itself as it is the principle of the thing.

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            #6
            Can you visit your SO first instead? Because that could work...
            Happily married to the little Canadian boy I never thought I'd meet in person

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              #7
              Originally posted by Zephii View Post
              Can you visit your SO first instead? Because that could work...
              I don't know if it's the issue with visiting first or visiting at all?

              I'll be in a similar situation in June. My boyfriend is going to a concert alone with a girl he used to have a things with (which he didn't tell me about, which is a whole nother can of worms). He asked me if I'm alright with it, and I said yes. I may be uncomfortable with it, but it's my own insecurities talking. Which I feel like is the case with your boyfriend. He's feeling insecure over this because you and England Guy have history, so obviously you once found him attractive.

              I would talk to your boyfriend again, and reassure him of how much you love him. If you aren't really close with England Guy anymore, why is it important?
              "We are all a little weird and life's a little weird, and when we find someone whose weirdness is compatible with ours, we join up with them and fall in mutual weirdness and call it love " ~ Theodore Seuss Geisel.

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                #8
                I don't think you should go.
                I was initially a bit on the fence - I believe you should be able to have guy friends, I think you should be able to have your own life - but the fact that there has been relatively recent history put me off.
                Then you said the word 'closure'.
                'Closure' is not real. If this situation with England Guy is as over as you say it is, you shouldn't need to see him for 'closure'. 'Closure' is just a way of re-opening old wounds to see what's underneath. When someone says they want 'closure', it means whatever's gone on... it's not over for them yet. This situation with England Guy, if you're wanting 'closure', means that you haven't closed the book on this part of your life yet. You're not done poking at this wound yet. I don't believe in needing to see people for 'closure', and it's a massive red flag on this situation for me.
                Your relationship with your boyfriend is still relatively new - 6 months. I don't think, if you love him as much as you say you do (and I don't doubt that you do), you should put pressure on this relationship by doing something he's so obviously uncomfortable with.
                Furthermore - if you were 100% sure that you were doing the right thing and that this was all innocent... I think this question would be a hell of a lot easier for you.

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                  #9
                  My thoughts - don't go. Staying in the past will never help your current relationship's future.

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                    #10
                    I have been on the recieving end of a similar situation and it hurt, a lot. I would go see your boyfriend.

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                      #11
                      If England guy was a friend that has played an important role in the last few years of your life, I'd say go see your friend, especially if you're not going to see him for over 2 years. BUT, England guy isn't "just a friend" to you. He is somebody you have a romantic and sexual history with, and putting someone you have history with at a higher priority than your boyfriend is a no-no. It will most definitely hurt your boyfriend even if he doesn't outrightly say so.

                      Also, "He says he trusts me, but I think it makes him feel weird and slightly uneasy regardless. I told him over and over how much I loved him and how his feelings are so important to me and for him to tell me if he was really bothered by me doing this." He's already SAID he's bothered by it, but you're still asking him the same questions because you don't want to accept his answer. Don't do it, if your relationship really means as much to you as you say it does.

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