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    Boyfriend to Boss

    As I've posted a million times before, my guy and I work together, that's how we know each other. We work for a smallish, global company (Less than 150 employees), in a niche market. We are on the internal IT team, there are four of us - two in the US, two in Helsinki. I've been there the longest, six years, and he's about five months behind me. From the start, our team has had ineffective, crappy, constantly changing management. In my six years, I've reported to at least seven people, so it's been less than a stable environment for us. For almost two years we had a manager located in our London office, but he just quit, and once again, our little IT team is up in the air

    Our CTO just approached Raine and told him he's considering him for the position, and asked him if he's interested, if the company decides to go in that direction (another attempt at a dedicated IT manager).

    OK, that's the boring background out of the way. So, if this comes about, and Raine decides to take on the responsibility, my boyfriend just became my boss I'm worried about this for two different reasons - The first is worrying about him taking an unstable position in a volatile economy, in a company that views their IT people as little more than toilet scrubbers. I could go into details, but it's business talk and boring as hell, so I'll spare you. I'll just say that he has a high probability of failure in this position, due strictly to our corporate culture; anyone would. The second is of course more personal - How the hell do we keep our business and civil lives separated?

    Some of you reading this, who haven't been in the corporate world yet might think this is an advantage - it's not. We're worried about it. We have kept our relationship secret from the company, people suspect, but we neither confirm nor deny. We've intended to keep it this way indefinitely. I don't want to stand in the way of his career, ever! If he can pull this off, it would be an excellent opportunity for his future, opening many doors in a country that isn't exactly throwing jobs at people. It's tough times at the moment.

    If he takes this, I have to be OK with some "tough love". He will have to call me out when necessary, deal fairly during yearly review times, bonuses and raises, delegate work to me, manage my work when needed (that would be very rare though), not instantly take my side during team issues, etc. If he takes this, I have to separate Boyfriend Raine from Boss Raine. I can't expect him to be my confidant regarding work stuff anymore, I'll need to be more guarded in my words, in order to protect both of us. I have to get used to knowing that he'll have to keep secrets, and stopping him when he starts telling me things he shouldn't, for his own good. He'll hate not being able to be 100% open with me. When he delegates work to me, or we have one-on-ones, I HAVE to treat him as my superior and keep my place as subordinate, I can't speak to him as casually as I would.

    Then, on bad days, I can't be still mad at him when I get home. Ugh.

    We're pretty good at keeping work at work, but on rare occasions, our disagreements have bled through to our home life. Because he knows me so well, he also knows all my (professional) weaknesses. That worries me. I'm a good, hard working employee, so it's not like I really have much to worry about in that regard, but I don't want to ever put him in such a position, which puts loads of pressure on me to be perfect all of the time! I'm already stretched so thin, thanks to my worthless co-worker, that getting everything done is damn hard already. It'll be his job to get even more out of me, and I desperately don't want to put him in a bad spot.

    Sorry this is a book, I never, ever ask for advice, but I'm feeling nervous about this one. I want so badly for him to do well, and will help in every way possible, but not at the expense of our relationship. I've already told him that if he takes this, and it ends up putting our relationship in jeopardy, I'll try to transfer to another department, if anyone will take me and I'll be useful there, or switch jobs completely. He's worried, but doesn't want to talk about it much til he figures out what he's doing, although he had a bit of a nightmare about it already

    Anybody been in this spot before, or got any useful advice? I'd appreciate your thoughts on this.
    Our separation of each other is an optical illusion of consciousness. ~Albert Einstein

    #2
    Well once my mom was my boss, but that's totally different. . .

    I think for the security of your relationship, he should either not accept the job or you should look for another one. It would be very difficult for me to be able to separate "Boyfriend SO" from "Boss SO". A lot of people can do it, I know I wouldn't be able to. If you think your relationship will suffer I really think it's best to switch jobs. It doesn't seem like you're really very happy there anyways. Maybe this is a great opportunity in disguise?

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      #3
      This is a bit of a tricky situation... But then again so are LDRs...

      I can imagine how stressed you both are... and a lot of people say that jobs don't matter, but for me (and my SO) they do. As long as both you and your SO are ok with giving this a go, why not give it a shot? Set yourself a certain deadline, for instance three months (which is the regular trial employment duration here in Lebanon) in which you will try this out. after that time passes and depending on how you both feel about the situation you can re-evaluate your decision.

      Also, a good thing about your boss knowing so much about how you work is that he knows what you are great at! he could give you more responsibilities in that area of your job and re-balance with other employees, if that makes any sence.

      i'm sorry, i'm completely jet lagged so i don't know if i make any sence, so to keep it short, "don't say no until you've given it a try" is what i would do.

      big hugs to you!
      Don't be dismayed at goodbyes. A farewell is necessary before you can meet again.
      And meeting again, after moments or lifetime, is certain for those who are friends.
      ~Richard Bach


      “Always,” said Snape.

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        #4
        I worked with my SO when we were close distance. Technically there were no "bosses" (my place of work had management issues.... one of the reasons I won't be asking for my job back over the summer) but since I had been there longer, I was higher up than he was. It caused a lot of issues with our relationship. I would suggest that your SO either not take the job or you find another if he does :/

        Became a couple: March 17th, 2010
        Started our college long distance relationship: August 2011
        Surprise engagement in Disneyworld! : March 22nd, 2013
        Closed the distance: May 2nd, 2014
        Became his wife and started our happily ever after!: May 17th, 2014

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          #5
          Oh shoot, that's a tricky situation :/

          I think it makes it harder that you're in the IT-business - I'm a nerd myself and know how much secrecy is involved in those kind of jobs. Keeping things from each other could be a potential hazard to your relationship.

          It's hard to suggest anything since I've never been in your shoes... Personally I would find it hard to keep the Boss and the SO apart. I probably would take any negative feed back about my job too personally. It's ok if it's a complete stranger telling me off for something but if it's someone close to me I get very defensive and upset. I'm weird like that

          I did work for my dad for almost 6 years and there wasn't a problem. But obviously it's different, he was my dad so I automatically thought of him as an authoritive figure.

          I guess it's really up to the 2 of you. Do you think you could try it out? You have to talk it over properly before making a desicion. Would it make it harder for you to keep your relationship a secret from the company? What are the pros and cons of doing this? There's a lot of questions raised here and you're the only one who can answer them.

          Best of luck, whatever you decide to do!


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            #6
            well... my best friend since college is my boss now (i know it's not the same situation) and we've been working together for almost three years now... i've always respected him as an authority at the office, but still we have lots of fun at work.

            now, my ex worked for a month in the same company i am, on a lower position than mine, and even though I wasn't his boss he felt a bit uncomfortable because people knew he was my bf and he kinda felt like he was less worthy of me... so i guess you might want to explore the idea of getting a job elsewhere since you're not happy about your current job anyway

            “Laughing like children, living like lovers, rolling like thunder under the covers”

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              #7
              If I missed this, then I apologize, but what does he think about taking the position? And does your company have rules about fraternization between employees? I know my employer has rules about it, they don't even want the attorneys hanging out with the assistants on our time off for the most part.

              I definitely think this is a tough situation to be in. Although my SO and I don't work for the same company, he is management and once you go into that mindset, it's incredibly difficult for him to turn that off. If I am venting about my work, he turns into management and offers advice on how to handle it. Drives me crazy If he were to obtain the position, I would seriously consider transferring out of the department. I think his being your boss and trying to keep that line separate will only hurt your relationship.

              Keep us posted. Hope it works out for the best either way

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                #8
                Thanks guys As of tonight, Raine doesn't think he'll take the job. I told him to take the week to think about it and be sure, so he doesn't have any regrets, and that he should speak with other trusted managers in the company for some perspective, since there could very well be things going on in the background we're unaware of as worker bees. So, we'll see.

                Anyway, while no, I'm not all that happy with the company, getting another job is unfortunately easier said than done these days I'm not completely unhappy, I make decent money and have four weeks vacation. I'll be lucky to get two starting at a new place, not good for an LDR! If he changes his mind, I'll stay awhile at least and see how it goes. If it isn't good, I'll start the process of moving on, definitely. I love that boy too much not to.

                As for fraternization, it used to be forbidden for an employee and a manager to date, but we have different HR and rules as of a couple of years ago, and now it's allowed, but discouraged (in case of a harassment suit). Believe me, I went over the updated handbook and employment rules with a fine-toothed comb as soon as he told me. Finnish rules are different, but it's still allowed. This is one of the first things I thought of.

                I guess we'll see, I'm neither encouraging or discouraging him, just pointing out the pros and cons, and giving advice on where to go for unbiased help. It's gotta be his choice, but I'll support him no matter what.
                Last edited by Moon; April 9, 2012, 11:22 PM.
                Our separation of each other is an optical illusion of consciousness. ~Albert Einstein

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                  #9
                  I don't have any advice, but I just want to say that I think it's really commendable how cool-headed and sensible you're being about a quite awkward situation.

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