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    You can't love someone else until you learn to love yourself

    So, this isn't really a specific situation nor is it entirely centered around LDR's, but I do feel it's vital to pretty much all relationships so I'd like to get your thoughts on it.

    I think many of us have heard the whole rule of 'self love' in one form or another, and how the most important person for us to love first is ourselves. I can see the reasoning behind it but I think actually applying it to real life can be difficult if not impossible for some people. I honestly don't think everyone is capable of even partially accepting themselves and that's just the way it i. However, as I feel that it's starting to badly effect my relationship, it's something I've been thinking about more about as of late.

    For me, the reason I can't love myself completely is purely because of my body shape. Yes, a rather vain thing to admit to and not nearly so noble sounding as some other people who have been through genuine traumas that cause them the inability to accept themselves for who they are, but plain and honest, that would be my reason.

    I won't give any numbers, weights or measurements as I think they're useless when trying to find help on this type of subject. It's so easy for some well-meaning reader to take the numbers, type them into some calculator and leave a simple, 'Oh! Your BMI is perfectly fine, stop worrying!' or, 'Just cut back on the junk food and have smaller portions, trust me, eating healthier will make you feel alot better'. Yes. Thank you. I have struggled with my body shape for more than enough years now to know where I stand on all those charts, to know how to exercise and what to eat. Plain and simple, for every single body out there, there are just some things that cannot be naturally changed without going to unhealthy extremes. And I'm not posting this subject asking for tips on how to lose weight/tone muscle/clear my skin/wash my hair or anything of the sort. That's not what this thread is about. I'm asking if anyone else has ever struggled with learning to love themselves for who they and if you've possibly overcome this battle aside from the ol' 'Tell yourself you're beautiful every day' mantra.

    I try not to let my personal loathing of my body creep too much into my conversations with my bf, but more and more latey that has been growing difficult, especially as we become more intimate on different levels and my anxiety usually causes me to snap out at him. As he's not physically here to really show me how much he loves my body, it's difficult for me to trust in his words when I feel so strongly about myself in the complete opposite direction. I know there's no miracle cure out there to give someone that much needed self confidence that everyone is always talking about, but I figure it couldn't hurt to post and ask around anyway.

    #2
    This fit's my problem because I really had a hard time loving myself. I am a drug addict, today I can say that and now I'm glad I am because it gives me a reason for why I've hated myself all my life and it just means that I finally know what to do to fix the problems going on. I couldn't keep our relationship going well before because of my self loathing but now that I'm learning to love myself it's starting to get better and thank god she stuck with me through all the awful stuff I did because now everything is starting to get better

    Sorry my ADD got to me and I started to write hahaha. But honestly I have a hard time believing that Delanie thinks I'm attractive but I just have to trust that she means it because she feels the same way and I still think she's beautiful.

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      #3
      Over the years I have gotten to love myself more and more I use to be very self conscious when I was younger but ya I don't know what's made me love myself, but I do.

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        #4
        I think it is difficult to pinpoint exactly what made me change my view of myself. I know that it was and still is a long road to travel and you will have relapses where you'll have bouts of self loathing.
        For me, i had to get a mindset of not caring what other people think of me. It was challenging but usually people are actually too busy worrying about stuff about themsleves to notice you.
        The whole body image deal is also a tough nut. In the end you are the only one who can change that, i know it sounds very generic but to be honest what works for one person might not work for another. :/
        I had to go through years of not liking my body but in the end i realized that i was wasting so much energy on it, energy that could be used in a more productive matter.

        Also you should try your best to take the compliments that your SO gives you. I am sure that he is not just saying that stuff to humour you, it comes from the bottom of his heart and he loves you a lot.
        In the beginning i sucked at taking compliments from my SO but i slowly realized that i actually was hurting her with the way i disregarding the compliments. She was expressing her love and the things she liked about me and by giving her a hard time about it i made her feel bad.

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          #5
          I believe I am still in the beginning stages of my journey to self love however I do think Ive improved. I always heard the 'you can't truly love someone until you love yourself' line and figured thats how it always is but now I feel differently. I began to love myself more after I realized how unconditional my SOs love is for me. When I truly noticed that he loves me for exactly who I am no matter what I just started thinking to myself 'hey maybe youre not so bad afterall.' I guess for everyone its different. But the first step is to surround yourself with people who truly love you and see your true beauty inner and outer even if you cant see it yourself all the time. Hope this helps!

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            #6
            I used to hate myself. I still hate myself sometimes. I do have some reasons I won't go into here, but due to circumstances I thought myself unintelligent (and still do for the most part), not creative in the slightest, extremely ugly, fat, and rather worthless. I talked through all these issues and why I felt that way with my boyfriend and he stayed up so many nights just to make sure I was all right. I panicked, I worried, I overthought every little thing, I cried and hated myself more for not overcoming it faster. However, in the end it was my decision. I had to choose to let go of those incidents and those thoughts. I had to choose to believe Alex when he said, "You look beautiful" or take a compliment without deflecting it.

            I'm still working on things. I still don't completely like myself, but I'm getting there. With some work and support and thinking and analyzing yourself critically you can overcome it. You say you don't like your figure, I understand where you're coming from because I used to be the same way. I've never been grossly overweight, but I've never been skinny and I thought myself fat until I decided to listen to Alex. I didn't stand too badly on the BMI scale and I knew how to eat healthy and exercise. THere were underlying things, though. There's typically an underlying something when you feel that way. Maybe it's not a big deal, maybe it is, but it's something that you have to decide to overcome or accept.

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              #7
              I think every woman (and why not men too) find faults and imperfections in themselves. I know I do and I would very much like to change a few things about me but for some reason I'm not determined enough - the thought of losing weight just makes me crave for chocolate

              Andy seems to think I'm fine just the way I am though and even though I find it extremely hard to believe I secretly enjoy it so much and I'm trying to accept that thought that I don't need to change for him, if I want a change it would be for me. I wouldn't say I love myself (yet) but I also don't hate myself and I think that's more important.


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                #8
                I would more say that my personal problem is "You can't believe someone loves you until you learn to love yourself"
                I've realized that most of my trust issues and jealousness and everything is because i don't think i'm worthy her love so therefor i don't believe that she loves me.

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                  #9
                  Wow, what a great idea for a thread.

                  My problem, I guess, is that I'm very strong-willed, independent, and a take-charge kind of personality. I have goals and expectations and I go for those. I really don't have a lot of patience for people that just kind of go with the flow, or passive personalities that would rather avoid conflict than fix the underlying issues by addressing them directly. That's just the way I function, very type A, I like things done the way I like them done.

                  Because of this, I've had a lot of guys break up with me because I'm "emasculating." I don't go around calling my boyfriends losers and pointing out their flaws everyday, but for a while I went out with the artistic/funny guys that had apparently very fragile egos. It made me really self-conscious in relationships. Could I be sarcastic, or would it hurt a guy's feelings? Could we argue and fight, or was I supposed to let everything blow over? I second-guessed everything I did because I was so afraid of offending a guy and scaring him off.

                  Until my SO, of course. He really doesn't have an ego, which I love about him. He's very humble, the first to admit, "Well, I sure screwed that one up." He puts up with my stubbornness and strong-willedness and bad moods, and is always quick to remind me of how lucky I am he lets me stick around. I love his sarcasm and the way we can "cut up," as he calls it, and how if he's teasing me and I threaten to leave him, he always responds with, "Really? If I'd have known it was that easy to get rid of you, I'd have done that a long time ago." He really is the perfect counter-balance to me and keeps me humble, too. I still have insecurities, and even though I know it's not going to happen, I sometimes neurotically worry that he'll just up and dump me, like the others. I just have to trust him, and I do. But like everything else, it can be hard.

                  I think part of it is loving yourself, but it's also finding that one person out there that loves you exactly the way you are, and doesn't expect you to change.
                  "All you need is love, love, love. Love is all you need."

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                    #10
                    I partially agree with this cause Im sorta kinda havin this problem with my SO.
                    He has real issues when it comes to himself. He used to be beaten up at high school and people mostly always used him, and then if you have parents who tell you daily you're a dissapointment its really hard to love yourself and believe that you are really worth somethin. But then again I know he truely loves me. We had a few arguments about this cause he would break up cause I deserve somethin better than him and so on, but I explain to him every time that I love him just the way he is and no one will change that

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                      #11
                      im slowly getting there with loving myself, im never gonna say "OMG IM SO HOT I TURN MYSELF ON!!" lol what i say now is "ehh im kinda cute" Denise has made me love myself and make me think im the most beautiful person ever, and i always feel like that when shes around, im slowly getting there and once in awhile i'll still think im ugly and fat and say it out loud heh....did that while she was here once O_o bad idea! lol

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                        #12
                        Ah, this saying, how I have heard it well.

                        Me, I believe it's a bunch of malarky. I've always hated myself, physically and personality-wise and basically accepted I was unlovable in a romantic sense for both because really I'm not the average girl and I'm not what most guys look for except maybe those quick lays where they can boast they did a fat chick. Anyway, my SO knew this quite plainly as whenever he complimented me I countered it with reasons why he was wrong. Again, something you'd think would have the person running.

                        However, through his persistence to have me see in the mirror what he's seen on camera and in pictures, I am learning to like myself. I'm not depending on him to say I'm pretty or I'm worth loving, I'm taking his guidance and realizing it for myself. I have a long was to go, but it's progress. To me, your worth to yourself is only there when your worth to someone else who would pay the ultimate price for you to know it. And that's with friends and family, too. Humans as a whole I think can't realize their self-worth until someone we care or love about shows it to us and only then can we grasp it. It's not a matter of self esteem, really, though that does factor pretty well. Hopefully that made sense.

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                          #13
                          I also have problems with loving myself, for many reasons. One of them, is the popular one: my body. I have struggled with my weight for the most of my life, due to having two overweight parents. I would gain weight buy just looking at a cookie. I've always eaten healthy food and small portions, but still gained weight. And it frustrated me. Over the last couple of months I've suddenly started to lose weight. I'm not doing anything different and I've actually been eating more unhealthy. So now I actually have almost the same body shape, as my friends. But, I still think weight will be an issue for me my whole life. So it's also an issue between my SO and I. He never thinks before he speaks and what he can mean as a joke or something not meant as mean. I quickly take personal and it can end in an argument.

                          I guess my father also plays a big role in my low self esteem. Nothing I've done has never been good enough for him. He has no education (he earns a lot of money, because he has speaking skills), but every time I only got a second best grade, he would always ask why I didn't get the best one. And when I finally got the best one, he never cared. When I got accepted into university, he was more busy with asking me what I wanted to use that for. And he has has always complained about everything: my looks, my personality etc.

                          And I don't like my personality much either. The thing I hate the most is: I manipulate. I've done it since I was a child, so now I don't notice it anymore. I've always been good with words and I can put ideas in people's heads and make them think it was their own. And every time I realize it, I start to hate myself. Especially when I do it to my SO. So I always end up wondering how he can love me. I know that the manipulate thing is a huge issue and I've decided that I need to work on it, before my SO finally has had enough of me. Don't think I can love myself, before I've gotten that under control.

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                            #14
                            I think being in a relationship has allowed me to learn to love myself. I always had a half decent amount of confidence, but I guess having the SO constantly going on about how "beautiful/cute/amazing" I am starts to have an effect after a while =P My family regards appearances as quite important and I've grown up to believe that making an effort is very important. I think having confidence is very important though. Of course I have off days, I'm not constantly prancing around shouting about how hot I am or anything, but I'm also not afraid to love myself for who I am =)

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                              #15
                              YOU ALL ARE BEAUTIFUL! SERIOUSLY! So hush

                              I wish I could give you some magical remedy that will teach you how to have self-confidence (hell, I don't have a lot of it either, so who am I to talk). You have to gain self-confidence through yourself. Good hygiene and exercise helps boost your self-esteem because you feel pretty after you shower and get ready, and you feel good about yourself after a jog or a gym session. When people compliment you, that should boost your self-confidence, and we have our SO's to do that lol duh, but you shouldn't let what other people tell you control your self-esteem, whether they're insulting or complimenting you. YOU control your self-confidence.

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