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    LDRs of a Different Sort: An LDF on the Rocks and Questions to Sustain LDFs

    A long-distance relationship doesn't have to be romantic--what about a long-distance friendship? I was prompted to post this because, in my final year of a lot of university training, I was blessed with two very wonderful housemates (plus one psychopath), who really were some of the best (there are some others and many acquaintances, but very few like these girls) and most kindred friends I made at university (this came after a very hard year, where my best friend passed away unexpectedly, and the original ...what I thought was a solid group of friends I had had all shunned me because some of the girls were jealous of me and also because they didn't like that I finally worked up the courage to stand up against their cavalier treatment of others and myself...anyway, that is all a long story and is getting into some scar territory). When the end of the school year came, we parted ways--I graduated, one girl lives in a different part of the province and is taking her final year off because she is ill, and the other girl was on an exchange from Europe and had to very reluctantly return home to finish her degree. We had great vows that we would keep in contact--we exchanged mailing addresses, we all have each other on Facebook (and the girl from Europe even made a private group for just the three of us), I have the girl from Europe on Skype and the other girl on MSN (she doesn't have a webcam or mic for Skype).

    I will be clear that I am not the most prolific penpal (I know, with the amount I can write on here, that seems bizarre), but I do eventually get about to at least posting in our Facebook group about some updates and questions, before a good deal of time has gone by. I have found that the posts and contact from everyone has become less and less (and, yes, I acknowledge that everyone is busy with their own concerns). What prompted me to make this thread was that I was the last to post a bunch of comments in the group after things had dwindled for awhile and no one has responded for awhile. The girl in Europe has posted in her status that she has moved in to a new apartment, which makes me wonder if the postcards I sent her went into purgatory. So, I posted very briefly on her wall and congratulated her about her new apartment and asked her if she could give me her new address and she couldn't be bothered to write back. I know that she is likely the busiest of the three of us (it could be that the other girl can't respond because when she gets ill, she is unable to use the computer...though I have seen that she is playing games on there...it's just unusual from her, because she really doesn't have herds of friends and is often eager to talk), but I don't think it is unreasonable to expect that she could respond with a brief reply for her address (and it isn't like I have done anything to warrant being blacklisted and I know very well that she has an iPhone which she gets constant Facebook updates on). She has also gone back to posting a lot of the things on her wall in German (well, an Upper Austrian dialect), which excludes not only us two girls from understanding it, but all of the many friends she made in Canada (other exchange students, included) from understanding what she is saying. You might say that she is onto other things and that the friendship is over, but that makes me very sad and surprised, because of how much she wanted to stay in Canada, or raise funds to return to Canada (possibly permanently) and how very much she did not want to go home and was agonized over losing friends like us. Does anyone have any insight or suggestions for this situation? (I know that I may not necessarily be able to hold onto the these friends forever, but they are really important to me right now and I want to try and make things better).

    Do you have any long-distance friends? How do you keep the bond going? (I think, in some ways, it may be even more difficult to keep the friendship up than in a long-distance romance, because there isn't that romantic or physical chemistry. Thus, "friend date" options and such may not be as expansive and there may not be that compulsion to visit and keep in contact as much as we might feel with someone we have romantic love for).

    #2
    Friendships no matter what, do fade. If you're that concerned with holding on to them you have to be the one to keep trying to make contact. If they don't respond, then they don't respond. It's better that way than forcing your foot in their door forever and having things one-sided. Plus it may be you feel like you're closer than you guys really were, who knows.

    I had two long distance best friends for years, both of whom I ended up leaving behind in my life because they had changed. Granted these two were but an hour away but I couldn't always see them and would go 3-4 months at the least between one day visits or have maybe one weekend together a year if we were lucky. We kept in contact via IM more than anything though we shared forums, websites, recently Facebook with the second one, but there were times we would go a while without speaking because of life, eventually someone would have enough free time to say 'hi' and things would go back to normal. But as I said, people grow to be different than how we knew them offline, sometimes for the worse on our end because it now conflicts with either our morals or just how we are/the way we live, and people drift. To me it sounds like all of them are drifting out to sea, whether they've forgotten you or not. They're elsewhere, meeting new people, having new ideas, and doing what they want. I have friends on FB who post in their native tongue, but these are people who have 60+ friends, many of whom speak said language when I'm sitting at not even 30 and don't even comment on posts much anymore for lack of interest/something to say. To me, FB as main contact means you're casual friends. If you have other ways to reach the people, the better, but that's entirely me.

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      #3
      I used to talk a lot with a woman I met in PKR.com around the same time I met Andy... She lives in Holland and was in a LDR with a guy from Wales at that time so we had a lot in common! They broke up after a year or so and after that (and a few short LDR attempts) she started dating local guys saying it's too hard to do the LD thing... it all just faded since then and I haven't spoken with her in ages, and I don't think I will either. Our friendship was great and close for as long as it lasted and if she ever contacts me again I'll sure welcome her with open arms!

      I guess Elina could be considered as a LD friend now (or what do you think Elina? ) since I met her on here and we have a lot in common too, although we only live some 30-40 minutes away from each other

      And of course all of you wonderful people on LFAD! Such good friends to talk to


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        #4
        Originally posted by LadyMarchHare View Post
        Friendships no matter what, do fade. If you're that concerned with holding on to them you have to be the one to keep trying to make contact. If they don't respond, then they don't respond. It's better that way than forcing your foot in their door forever and having things one-sided. Plus it may be you feel like you're closer than you guys really were, who knows.

        I had two long distance best friends for years, both of whom I ended up leaving behind in my life because they had changed. Granted these two were but an hour away but I couldn't always see them and would go 3-4 months at the least between one day visits or have maybe one weekend together a year if we were lucky. We kept in contact via IM more than anything though we shared forums, websites, recently Facebook with the second one, but there were times we would go a while without speaking because of life, eventually someone would have enough free time to say 'hi' and things would go back to normal. But as I said, people grow to be different than how we knew them offline, sometimes for the worse on our end because it now conflicts with either our morals or just how we are/the way we live, and people drift. To me it sounds like all of them are drifting out to sea, whether they've forgotten you or not. They're elsewhere, meeting new people, having new ideas, and doing what they want. I have friends on FB who post in their native tongue, but these are people who have 60+ friends, many of whom speak said language when I'm sitting at not even 30 and don't even comment on posts much anymore for lack of interest/something to say. To me, FB as main contact means you're casual friends. If you have other ways to reach the people, the better, but that's entirely me.
        First off, it's good to hear from you!

        It seems to have been the bane of many of my friendships where I often have to reach out to people, mediate and moderate between people, and coordinate events. Those are good skills to have, but sometimes it gets annoying. A lot of my time lately is given to thinking about my SO and I am also coming on here a lot! Yikes! So, maybe I can make more of an effort to contact them, before I give up (or at least hope to hear from them whenever, instead). The girl who is ill may want me to call her, which I can try and do more often and she also posted quite a few pictures on Facebook and I haven't commented on many of them at all (which she seems to be holding against me a bit)--I don't think I over-estimated the friendship either way with her, but perhaps I did with the other girl. The other girl...I'm not sure how much more I can do. I still think it is worth sending her postcards, etc. from time to time (if I ever get her new address. Though, she did send me one recently), but she almost never comes on Skype any more. You are right that it could fade out--I guess because I am feeling very reliant on my SO and family right now for good friendships, I am feeling a bit clingy about these two girls, in particular.

        I did have friendships like that, too--people from elementary school or high school now, whom I moved on from and they had moved on from me and we say "hi" and chat a bit online or what have you, but it isn't the same and I don't necessarily want it to be the same, because we are different now. As for Facebook, for the three of us, it just seemed like the most convenient option to deal with different time zones, illnesses, work schedules, etc. (but I do have lots of casual friends on Facebook, too). Yes, it is fair for her to post in her native tongue (and thank you for reminding me that I was being a bit unsympathetic), but I would say that (in her particular case) her exchange friends actually outnumber her friends at home and that many of her friends at home do speak English (plus, she is an international business student, so she is usually using every opportunity to converse in English that she can, especially since she claims to like the sound and look of English much better than German).

        You're right that Facebook, although fun and a useful tool in some ways, can be rather detrimental to friendships and relationships (how many posts have I made now complaining of something hurtful on Facebook? ). So, I will try my best to give the one girl a call this weekend and pay a bit more attention to Skype to see if the other pops on.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Tanja View Post
          I guess Elina could be considered as a LD friend now



          Erm.. I've never really had and LD friends I guess. I've had friends that I knew, and then they moved to a different city in England/Scotland to go to uni, if that counts? :s

          Like Tanja, I'd kinda consider her and Andy to be LD friends though now

          Or maybe just Andy haha
          Joking, Tanja

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            #6
            Originally posted by Tanja View Post
            I used to talk a lot with a woman I met in PKR.com around the same time I met Andy... She lives in Holland and was in a LDR with a guy from Wales at that time so we had a lot in common! They broke up after a year or so and after that (and a few short LDR attempts) she started dating local guys saying it's too hard to do the LD thing... it all just faded since then and I haven't spoken with her in ages, and I don't think I will either. Our friendship was great and close for as long as it lasted and if she ever contacts me again I'll sure welcome her with open arms!

            I guess Elina could be considered as a LD friend now (or what do you think Elina? ) since I met her on here and we have a lot in common too, although we only live some 30-40 minutes away from each other

            And of course all of you wonderful people on LFAD! Such good friends to talk to
            Hmmmn, that might be a bit of what I am experiencing, too--we had more common experience to bond us before (living together, the evil roommate we didn't like, going and doing things, getting through courses at the same university, etc.). It is good to hear, though, that you would be welcoming of her friendship if more contact was re-initiated.

            That's really sweet!

            Awww, I kind of feel that way, too! If anything, I am coming on here a bit too much, but that just shows what a strong and giving community this is.

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              #7
              Originally posted by sam View Post



              Erm.. I've never really had and LD friends I guess. I've had friends that I knew, and then they moved to a different city in England/Scotland to go to uni, if that counts? :s

              Like Tanja, I'd kinda consider her and Andy to be LD friends though now

              Or maybe just Andy haha
              Joking, Tanja
              Haha Sam, we're all friends on here, right
              (But us 4 are special )

              I had another friend from Holland I spoke with online for well over a year but he got cancer and died...he had set it up so that a CD friend of his emailed me to keep me updated what's going on with him and I could reply to him (after he was hospitalized) and then one night I had an email saying he's passed away...

              It was a real shock even though I never met him in person and it took me quite a while to get over it, especially since I was just planning to send him a card at the hospital but it was too late. Even now (it's been over 2 years) whenever I hear his favorite song, Every ship must sail away by Blue Merle I have to fight off the tears.


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                #8
                I have a bunch of LDFs. Mostly guys (lol at this point) but it varies. Like I had a good friend from London, she spend a weekend at my place and I met her again when I was in London but now we barely talk. Only every once in a while we're like "hey whats up"
                With the other ones I basically have 2 best LD friends. I chat with them almost daily, even if its just 5 mins. With one of them I cam every now and then and with the other its more like once per half year.
                I guess it depends on the both of you if you wanna keep the relationship up, I mean like some people are fine with just sayin hi whats up every once in a while others just seem to chat almost daily cause it just fits better friendship wise (just like with me lol)
                I as an example also send postcards to those 2 best friends whenever I go visite a place. Or send lil birthday presents or somethin.

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                  #9
                  I have a fair amount of LDFs, including my two best friends from growing up. One now lives in Ohio, and the other in New York City. I don't always keep track of them, but when I do get to see or talk them, it's always great.

                  Actually, most of my college friends are now LDFs, as I moved to a different part of the state than most of them, and it does suck to feel excluded from plans. I know they're all seeing each other, and are even including other isolated parts of our group (I want to jump up and down and be like HI LOOK AT ME!! when they do that), which is currently infuriating.

                  But sometimes people just move on. I know that with the situation I'm in right now, I can't just up and take a 3 hour trip (each way) over a weekend to see friends, when I've got exams usually on the Monday or Tuesday after. Hopefully you can try and connect with your European friend again; ask her if she got your cards, explain you sent them to her old address...hopefully her country's mail service has some mail-forwarding service for people who just moved.

                  If you look for it, I've got a sneaking suspicion...love actually is all around

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                    #10
                    I've always had ldf and the bond has never broken, sometimes the contact is less, sometimes more. When I was younger letters was all we had, and maybe once in a millenium phone call. Now with messengers, networks, etc it's so easy!

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                      #11
                      I have a friend that I met online while playing World of Warcraft we have never met as we live like 270 miles apart. We chat a lot - almost every day, or at least every other day for hours for 4 years? Im not sure. He used to be shy, without a girlfriend, I helped him a lot to get confidence, encouraged him to be ambitious and go to the gym. He is a good listener and encourages me as well. He is like a younger brother to me (even though he's the older one). so yes, it exists and no, Im not sexually attracted to him

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Tanja View Post
                        I guess Elina could be considered as a LD friend now (or what do you think Elina? ) since I met her on here and we have a lot in common too, although we only live some 30-40 minutes away from each other
                        Sure thing!

                        ...and Sam's your friend too, yeah? x)

                        Uhm well, I guess I've only had one LD friend before.. I met her on a language course with my other friend and we did stay in touch quite a lot for about a year and she came to visit us and we went to visit her a few times (she lives in Finland too, about 4 hours away) but then it just kinda.. faded and now we rarely talk or see each other.. It's a shame in a way, she's a nice girl.

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                          #13
                          I guess all my friends from England turned into LD when I went to america, and really, facebook was my only means of contact, I kept up with most of them, but I must say some friendships have dwindled, mostly on my side, I'm really bad at replying to things =/

                          <3 The day we met : 10.31.2009
                          <3 Our first Date: 11.04.2009
                          The Day we went long distance: 08.08.2010
                          <3 He came to England: 12.27.2010-01.07.2011
                          <3 My trip to Ohio: 5.29.2011-6.09.2011
                          Our first Christmas visit: 12.23.2011-1.7.2011
                          Distance closed: 2.29.2012!!!!!!!!

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                            #14
                            I went to boarding school in Utah, and I met a LOT of girls there, and I keep in contact with quite a few.

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                              #15
                              I have a few LDF's We keep in contact but don't talk every day, sometimes we don't talk for months! But whenever we have time we talk and catch up

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