Citizenship & Dual Citizenship

[sam]

So right now I'm writing a letter which I'll give to the Finnish immigration regarding my future plans. I've been told to include whether in the future I'd want to become a Finnish citizen or not..

Nowwwwwwwwww.. I'd want to get dual citizenship (not that I really know what this is.. advantages/disadvantages etc..) but I guess they wont want to hear this, and they'd wanna hear that yeah.. I'll become a Finnish citizen once I'm eligible..

Just wondering if anyone knows anything about citizenship..? Should I tell them I want dual, or just tell them I'll become a Finnish citizen? If I get dual citizenship.. what would that mean for me? What advantage is there getting that over just Finnish citizenship, or even keeping my British one..



Thaaaaaaanks

EDIT: Also, if I got dual, woul I have 2 passports haha

[Tanja]

You don't need Finnish citizenship mate, only if you wanna vote or join the military and I doubt you wanna do either of those

[mllebamako]

I am not sure about Finland because each country has different citizen laws. But, out of curiosity, why do you want it? Finland and the UK are both member states of the EU so you shouldn't have a problem living or working there?

(Wait...now that I think of it, can one of you (sam, elina, tanja or andy) school me on WHY you even need to deal with so much shit for immigration when they are both EU member countries?)

[nicole]

I suppose if he got duel, say if they had children, their children wouldn't have to deal with all the immigration business if they wanted to live in the uk, or stay there for a long time? And It would be the same for Sam, if he needed to go back to the UK again for a prolonged stay in the future, he wouldn't have to go through the whole visa thing again.

I've often wondered this myself, I would like dual citizenship so my kids would have a right to a British passport and healthcare, if for any reason we needed them. I guess more reasearch will have to be done

Edit: you might have to do some more in-depth research, I just looked at the one for the USA, it says every country has it's own laws, as a dual citizen you will have to obey the laws of both countries... which may mean paying taxes to both countries? you'll have to look that one up for Finland and the UK and see what the tax laws are =/ they just love to make things complicated don't they?

[Tanja]

I am not sure about Finland because each country has different citizen laws. But, out of curiosity, why do you want it? Finland and the UK are both member states of the EU so you shouldn't have a problem living or working there?

(Wait...now that I think of it, can one of you (sam, elina, tanja or andy) school me on WHY you even need to deal with so much shit for immigration when they are both EU member countries?)

That's an excellent question I've asked many times! I remember when we joined the EU, all the politicians were braggin how easy and effortless it will be to travel and move to another EU country, they said you won't be even needing a passport when you travel.. What a LOAD of bs that was lol.

[mllebamako]

That's an excellent question I've asked many times! I remember when we joined the EU, all the politicians were braggin how easy and effortless it will be to travel and move to another EU country, they said you won't be even needing a passport when you travel.. What a LOAD of bs that was lol.

Stupid EU! I thought it was supposed to be easy for all citizens of any member country to move throughout the EU and work/live wherever!

[elina]

Stupid EU! I thought it was supposed to be easy for all citizens of any member country to move throughout the EU and work/live wherever!

Far from it Well.. working is fine as long as you find work I guess, but just living..? Goodness.. it is a struggle (with Finland at least)

[Rane]

No helpful advise, but just wanted to say good luck finding yours answers. >.< Oh, and Immigration is a bitch! >.> (And mind my French! :O)

[Zephii]

Some countries don't offer duel citizenship, so you'd need to find out if that's possible first, (I doubt, being an EU country, you'd have to renounce your English citizenship but it doesn't hurt to check) but in your letter, if being a citizen is important to you, just write that you want to become a citizen. Having two citizenships doesn't cheapen either of them. Having two just gives you the right of citizenship in both countries - the right to vote, join the military, not be deported, etc. And yes, you'd get two passports, and you'd use your Finnish one when coming or going from Finland so they don't give you as much of a hard time as they do other travelers.

You have to discover for yourself why you'd go to the effort of getting citizenship rather than just PR. Personally, I'll be getting duel citizenship because I can't fathom living in a country where I'm not allowed to vote, because I believe it's morally the right thing to do and because it will make bouncing between two countries easier. See, in Canada to maintain your PR you have to live in the country three out of every five years. (I think, maybe it's two) You can lose your residency and have to re-apply, and I don't want to risk that. I like the security being a citizen would give me.

[DarkSolitary]

Sam, This site might help if you haven't already looked at it https://www.euimmigration.org/

[Darth_Taco]

I don't know how it works where you are, but a lot of countries won't allow you to have dual citizenship without certain circumstances. I am an example of special circumstances. I am an American citizen because the 14th Amendment states anyone born in the US is an automatic citizen, and a Mexican citizen because at least one parent was born there. Otherwise, the US wouldn't let me have both citizenships. We make people renounce the old one except for those special exceptions.

As for your kids, I think they get it easier. Most nations give the offspring of citizens automatic citizenship. Example, your kids could be born in Finland, but because you're from the UK, your kids would get dual citizenship there too. You might need two passports. Some countries will make it ridiculously hard to leave without it, even if you don't live there XP. Not sure about the voting and taxes thing, still trying to figure that one out myself. I can't for another 6 months since legal voting age in Mexico is 21 so I can't try to register yet.