I think my boyfriend is lying

[FierceFoxie]

I spoke to him about it and he explained the phone thing. He has a duel band phone, an old Motorola a840 and that's how he was able to text me while gone. He was a little upset that I called his phone company and asked for information on him... as to be expected.

He sent me a few videos his friends made for me vouching for his realness, like 6 of them and two of the people I've webcammed with so maybe I am just being paranoid and that other guy is a liar. the guy I spoke to told me those were old pics of him from when he was like 16, a friend of mine sent me his link. But maybe the guy is lying since there is so much proof that says otherwise. Even his friends mom made me a video and I've met her daughter on webcam, so maybe? My boyfriend also posted an all account salute on his facebook a little while back... idk if I should ask the other guy for proof or just believe my boyfriend.

My boyfriend was pretty upset though...

I've seen live videos of my boyfriend performing and he has tons of fans on facebook music page, but my friends told me all of that could be stolen.

So you have webcammed with his friends but not with him? Why not? If he has access to making videos and sending you the links and a Facebook page; he should be able to Skype with you! I would insist that he webcam with you otherwise something smells really fishy.

[Jgui]

I think your biggest concern should be the picture. have you vid chat with him before? or it's just all through email and regular chats? it's actually very easy to unlock a phone to be use overseas.

[rixue]

I agree you need to set up some kind of video chat with your SO, the pictures seem fishy :/ I would trust your gut on this one. Like Moon said, webcams are cheap and webchatting programs are free. With that there does not seem to be any real excuse for not being able to webcam. Good luck, hope everything turns out alright! Keep us updated!

[LeilaniJoi]

@vonsever..many...as you found a lot of the older phones are dual band.

[snow_girl]

So you have webcammed with his friends but not with him? Why not? If he has access to making videos and sending you the links and a Facebook page; he should be able to Skype with you! I would insist that he webcam with you otherwise something smells really fishy.

I completely agree! If he can get friends to vouch via video then he should be making a video of him saying "Hey this is me!' I don't understand at all why he hasn't shown his face over two years, there is no way I would put up with that.

[Tanja]

Seriously. Look at what you've told us. He's making his friends to convince you he's for real and you've been chatting with them but not with HIM during this whole time? You haven't seen him realtime at all during this 2½ years? That should (and should have ages ago) tell you something.

[Haley53]

I agree with the others. There's an issue if he can go to the effort of video recording his friends and pointing you to vague video recordings of him playing music, and yet he can't take the time to hop on Skype or make a video for you in general. It's not about proof. It's about connecting with your SO during the 2 and 1/2 years you two have been together. Both my partner and I love to Skype, love sharing pictures, and love seeing videos of one another; it's simply what couples do. If he's so willing to show you "everyone else," why is he so unwilling to show you who he is? That's not proof, in my opinion, that's him trying to manipulate his way out of either getting on cam or taking a personal video for you.

[Vonsever]

Hello all!

My boyfriend took two proof signs addressed to me saying the other guy is fake and that he is real. He showed me where the other guy got his pictures from and the dates on my boyfriend photos are way older than the guy who said they were him, so I guess the other guy was fake?

[Brieasaurus]

I just want to add my two cents in here. When I first met my SO, I was using fake pictures. Let me just tell you, it is extremely easy to fake being someone else if you have a basic knowledge of photoshop and common sense. I had been doing it for a while before I met him and convinced a lot of people that that was who I really was, by editing videos the real girl had made to make it sound like I had made a video for someone, or photoshopping their name onto a blank piece of paper being held by the girl. I also created fake accounts/fake drama to make it seem like my fake persona was real. It was a horrible thing to do and it's one of my biggest regrets. However, I'm not the only one who has done it.

I'm not saying that your SO is/isn't lying to you. I just want you to realize that the only way to get proof is to videochat. If someone is going to all the extra effort (like you said your SO is doing) to make them seem real to you but not doing something as simple as videochatting, something is a little fishy. Like the others have said, trust your gut. It's almost always right. We live in a world today where it's extremely simple to just pretend to be someone else online. If you feel satisfied and trust the proof he's given you, fine, continue your relationship. Just be careful.

[FierceFoxie]

Hello all!

My boyfriend took two proof signs addressed to me saying the other guy is fake and that he is real. He showed me where the other guy got his pictures from and the dates on my boyfriend photos are way older than the guy who said they were him, so I guess the other guy was fake?

You're missing the point. So what if he was able to receive mail in which required a signature?? That doesn't prove anything other than there is a live person you have been communicating with. The question is why can't you see your boyfriend live on camera where there would rest any doubts about who he is?! Do not accept any of the BS he is giving you about being upset that you don't believe him because you cammed with his friend or his friend's mom. Your relationship is not with his friends! I am starting to believe you are being scammed here. There is a reason why he is getting worked up with you when you start doubting him. If he had nothing to hide, all he has to do is get on skype with you. He is hiding something. he is specifically hiding himself. He is heavier than he led on, he is less attractive than he has made you think or he used someone's photos. I do not understand why after 2 1/2 years he is making this a big deal for a request to cam with him. I'm sorry Vonsever but it is not asking too much and this should have been something you demanded years ago! Don't be a fool! Demand to see him on cam or threaten to leave the relationship. Why waste anymore of your time with someone that won't grant you a face to face meeting??

[Moon]

You're missing the point. So what if he was able to receive mail in which required a signature?? That doesn't prove anything other than there is a live person you have been communicating with. The question is why can't you see your boyfriend live on camera where there would rest any doubts about who he is?! Do not accept any of the BS he is giving you about being upset that you don't believe him because you cammed with his friend or his friend's mom. Your relationship is not with his friends! I am starting to believe you are being scammed here. There is a reason why he is getting worked up with you when you start doubting him. If he had nothing to hide, all he has to do is get on skype with you. He is hiding something. he is specifically hiding himself. He is heavier than he led on, he is less attractive than he has made you think or he used someone's photos. I do not understand why after 2 1/2 years he is making this a big deal for a request to cam with him. I'm sorry Vonsever but it is not asking too much and this should have been something you demanded years ago! Don't be a fool! Demand to see him on cam or threaten to leave the relationship. Why waste anymore of your time with someone that won't grant you a face to face meeting??

Exactly. Vonsever, I'm not sure how anyone can make this clearer to you. I realize you're new around here, but maybe you've caught on to the fact that this is a forum full of people who CARE, we would not be saying this to you for the hell of it, OK? I don't care what "proof" he's provided you with, he's full of crap, and YES, we DO get it. You know he's lying, so stop making excuses for him and being so naive and listen to what a bunch of caring strangers, all in LDR's, many international, are telling you. I don't want to see a post in 6 months about how you got your heart broken by some fake guy on the internet. If you're lucky, that's all you'll get.

It's simple. Demand a cam session. That's it. Please.

[Zapookie]

Hello all!

My boyfriend took two proof signs addressed to me saying the other guy is fake and that he is real. He showed me where the other guy got his pictures from and the dates on my boyfriend photos are way older than the guy who said they were him, so I guess the other guy was fake?

Dated photos but it has old dates? Why couldn't he take one with todays date? Or even just webcam with you..?

[Dezface]

Sorry to be harsh but don't be a fool. You know something is amiss here or you wouldn't be posting on a forum about it.

Tell him to webcam with you. If he won't, be done and move on. If you keep this up you're going to find out your boyfriend is fake after you've invested even more time.

[Haley53]

Hello all!

My boyfriend took two proof signs addressed to me saying the other guy is fake and that he is real. He showed me where the other guy got his pictures from and the dates on my boyfriend photos are way older than the guy who said they were him, so I guess the other guy was fake?

I agree with Brieasaurus.

I can understand the want to believe someone is real. Trust me, one of my best friends, when I was 16, turned out to be a fake (though he did a whole hell of a lot more to an entire forum, as he had several personas and a few active ones). When I started suspecting it, I ignored it. Sure, the he and the friend I met him through typed similar, but I know I tend to take on the typing habits of my best friend after I've spoken to her at length, so maybe that's what was happening with them. Could explain away their fonts and words too. But then there were the pictures. He had pictures for each persona he portrayed. He liked me to get on cam and giggle at his jokes, but he never cammed with me. It was either broken or he was shy. The reason was one of his other personas had cammed with someone else, who he took as his boyfriend, and when I started nosing around and piecing two and two together, he ended up killing that persona off, an ending he'd secured by giving the persona a disease to work with to begin with. The point is that it's not easy to fake something, and it's especially suspicious when he goes to any length NOT to turn on his cam with his GIRLFRIEND, though he's supposedly fine taking videos of everyone else. There's no doubt you're talking to a real person, but it's entirely possible he's not who he says he is, and though it can be hard to let go after 2 and 1/2 years, you have to think of what's in your best interest. *shrug* The person on my forum broke a lot of hearts because they didn't listen to me when I figured it out (I finally took it to a mod, who got proof) or to their own gut feelings about it. Don't let it happen to you too. Don't rationalise it away with thinking some other guy who doesn't even know you must be fake and so that explains everything. This honestly sounds like a situation where it's time for an ultimatum. You're walking in the sights of a loaded gun here and you know it, but as someone who has actually been in the situation where she and several others were ripped apart by the personas they originally thought they knew (and I'm not suggesting your case is as extreme as this), I'm begging you get out of the crossfire and take back the power you're allowing him to have by buying half-assed attempts at manipulating you into not actually getting to see his face.

[Kiyama]

Please please insist on a cam session. No more excuses. No more explanations. Just repeat this one sentence to him: I want a cam session.
If he denies it, please leave this relationship :/