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    #31
    humm... so sorry to hear this.. first i thought just the same case like i did... when my SO told me to visit him but then he address me as friend. But then he did pay for my flight ticket and arrange everything so i could come to visit him. Even if its one month late than our plan. But as your case what he did is "TALK ONLY-NO ACTION" i could do this to you too.. hey come to my house next month ok, i invite you....

    There is difference between doing or just saying it. If he does love you he will do anything to get you there.. which he didnt do.. worse even dont want to talk with you anymore on MSN.. and you use youtube to communicate which is weird.

    Love comes in many ways, its true that plenty of couples here start dating from internet, but you should know which one for real and which one is not. Use your eyes to see, dont use your heart to see because that wont work

    Use your eyes in terms.. what does he do to get you there and prove that he is worth the love and attention you gave?

    Sorry... thats the best i could say...

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      #32
      Originally posted by Tanja View Post
      I have to say, there's so many red flags in your story that it's hurting my eyes.

      I'm sorry you're going through this. I know how easy it is to fall for someone who says nice things to you. It's very flattering and what else wouldn't a woman want than to feel loved, wanted and beautiful?

      BUT (yes, there is a but and a big one).

      You've only talked to him a few weeks. You have no idea who this person really is. I know you think you know him inside out but trust me, people can make up unbelievable things in order to get what they want. It doesn't make a difference if he's told you where he lives or goes to work, he could have easily been lying. If you do go there my guess is that he will not be there. The way he's acted does sound like he is a player whether you want to believe it or not.

      Also some men do like to talk about things with a stranger without wanting sex. It doesn't mean they're genuine and can be trusted. It just means they wanna talk about things and that's that. They are men, not animals.

      The more you keep repeating the fact that he's talked with you about other stuff than sex and the fact that you're willing to show your chat logs to us to 'prove' it makes me even more sure that you've been played. Those chat logs don't prove anything at all.

      You just can not trust someone you've known for a few weeks. All that talk about marriage and kids - just woah. You wanting to go there has probably freaked him out and now he's gone. Which for YOU is probably a very good thing.

      IF he is for real then HE will contact you again. But don't let your hopes get up hun.


      I appreciate all this, but I have looked him up and he is who he says he is.

      Yes, I agree his behavior is immature, but he has said to me, more than once, that he is afraid of falling in love with a foreigner, because he was been badly burned before. However, I think he is more scared than shallow. He doesn't contact me because he doesn't want to hurt my feelings or doesnt' want to get deeper into a relationship.

      And, frankly, from his point of view, I'd be TERRIFIED if someone wanted to move over to where I live and marry me. Maybe he is just afraid. Still inexcusable though.

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        #33
        I'm gonna go with the majority here. He sounds like a player.
        I've known many many players. Fortunately, they've been friends and not people I've dated, so I've gotten a glimpse at what they do. One of my close male friends decided he wanted a female friend of mine, and patiently waited for it to happen. Wooed her, went on a lot of dates, stayed up all hours talking (about marriage, moving to the US to be with her, moving in together, etc.), and after a while, he got what he wanted. And she didn't hear from him once afterwards. Even I thought he was legitimately interested, and I know what he can be like with women.

        So, yeah, it really sucks to be in your situation, but you're not gonna rationalise this away. If he wanted to talk to you, he'd talk to you, and not over a message on youtube. And even if it's true that you terrified him with talk of marriage and moving, I'd imagine that the fact that he's avoiding you should tell you he's trying to cut off contact.
        At least you haven't known him very long... I don't really know if you can love someone after such a short time. My SO and I exchanged "i-love-yous" after about 6 weeks, and that seemed very quick. And I was spending 90% of my time with him in-person before we said that.


        Love will not betray you, dismay or enslave you, it will set you free

        Met: Cork, Ireland - December 31, 2009 • Started Dating: Cork, Ireland - May 22, 2010 • Became LD: July 15, 2010 • My Move From Canada to UK: October 26, 2011
        Closed the distance June 18, 2012!

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          #34
          Hello there... I must say that your situation is the same with me.
          My boy also afraid to fall in love over internet because he had a bad experienced with it when he fell in love and devoted his life to a wrong girl.
          He told me his condition, he also told me that he couldn't love me until we met for real. That's hurt but we managed it by the way till now thru the hardest way.

          BUT, the difference is that he never vanished suddenly, he always there for me even though he became so quiet and being overly cautious so not to make me put too much hope in our relationship. When I was down, he was there, sending me email and sending me a song with nice lyrics to support me.
          The point is that, when a man really care for you then he will do anything and will never leave you.
          He will think of you as his dearest person, whether it's his very dear friend or his very dear lover, but he will never ever vanished without any reason.

          And for your case, sorry, but I don't consider youtube as a good media to communicate deeper.
          I mean, if he could online and sent you message thru youtube, it also mean he could online and use his email instead of youtube.

          But, the decision is on your hands and I believe you know what the best for you.
          Just don't close your mind and your heart, because sometimes it tells the truth even though you tried so hard to deny it.
          Wish you the best.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Zapookie View Post
            I agree with Hollis.

            I also urge you to not go visit him in Italy. A female traveling alone is not very safe, particularly in some places in Europe. Also, where would you stay if you went to Italy? If he doesn't know you're coming, and you've never met him before, you can't just show up and expect him to welcome you with open arms. These kinds of trips need planning and communication from the two of you. There needs to be some kind of plan.

            I know you feel madly in love with him and its upsetting you that you haven't heard from him, but you need to think rationally.

            My friend had a relationship with a guy online who always seemed a little sketchy to me. He lived in Sydney (same city), but always made excuses about why he couldn't meet up with her that week. They never webcammed. He barely had any friends on facebook. His only proof that he was real was him taking a pic and writing her name on a piece of paper (he was not visible in the shot). Then suddenly one night he had to leave to fly to Lebanon (where is family was supposedly from), because his grandmother became sick and he wasn't sure when he'd be coming back. They had only been talking about 4 months before he left.

            Can you believe she was actually considering dropping everything to go visit him? Turns out this guy didn't even exist and the person playing the guy, was actually a girl (not saying Francesco is a girl, because we know you've spoken to him) who we were friends with, and the police actually had to get involved.

            Now I'm not saying this is going to happen to you or to anyone else. Just with new people you meet online, you kinda have to establish that they're who they say they are. It's just too easy to lie over the internet.[COLOR="Silver"]

            omg, that is so very sad. i would not believe someone exists until i at least video chatted. anyone can say or be anything online as it was said.


            and i didnt read the other posts of the next pages, but does this guy have a girlfriend you know about? if yes, its very low to think he is yours just like that. would you like if he was your boyfriend and another girl suddenly showed up saying he belongs to her? i dont think so.

            ---------- Post added at 03:49 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:45 PM ----------

            Originally posted by WhiteValkyrie View Post

            Furthermore, he HAS emailed me back, after I commented on his YouTube video, somewhat jokingly, "Francesco Franchini, I will love you until the day I die, whether you like it or not. " Then he emailed me and said "Hi, how are you? Hope all is well, thanks for your comment on my video, I guess you liked it "

            Furthermore, if he IS an asshole after all, then I DO want to go to Italy- JUST TO KICK HIS ASS. THAT will be TWICE as worth it. And I have money, so it's not that hard for me.
            dear, if it was me in your place after saying what you said and getting this reply i would think he was not that into me. not trying to be rude or anything, just speaking my mind, because you seem to be blind in love with him and may not see what other people may.
            our story.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Tanja View Post
              I have to say, there's so many red flags in your story that it's hurting my eyes.


              BUT (yes, there is a but and a big one).

              You've only talked to him a few weeks. You have no idea who this person really is. I know you think you know him inside out but trust me, people can make up unbelievable things in order to get what they want. It doesn't make a difference if he's told you where he lives or goes to work, he could have easily been lying. If you do go there my guess is that he will not be there. The way he's acted does sound like he is a player whether you want to believe it or not.

              Also some men do like to talk about things with a stranger without wanting sex. It doesn't mean they're genuine and can be trusted. It just means they wanna talk about things and that's that. They are men, not animals.

              The more you keep repeating the fact that he's talked with you about other stuff than sex and the fact that you're willing to show your chat logs to us to 'prove' it makes me even more sure that you've been played. Those chat logs don't prove anything at all.

              You just can not trust someone you've known for a few weeks. All that talk about marriage and kids - just woah. You wanting to go there has probably freaked him out and now he's gone. Which for YOU is probably a very good thing.

              IF he is for real then HE will contact you again. But don't let your hopes get up hun.
              agree with all above.


              to the OP:
              many guys like to just talk online and not in person, and are adictted to that, going from one girl to another, all online, some of them married. they like this make believe but when things start to get real they run away and never show up again.

              ,aybe he was having a fun talking with you but when you said you would really go there and soon he saw he couldnt be prettending any longer and disappeared.


              and so many other red flags, like talking about marriage too soon! hello? i usually say that someones that doesnt give a second thought before saying important things like i love you or talking about getting married too soon usually dont know the importance of it and say it the same way as they say good morning, without any emotional relavance for them (sure the is always that rare exception to the rule but for what i read it doesnt seem your case)

              ---------- Post added at 04:09 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:05 PM ----------

              just one moe thing somebody already asked: how old are you? and how old is he?
              our story.

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              02.02.2012 - When we got married and closed the distance once and for all

              "If it is important to you, you will find a way. If not, you'll find an excuse."

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                #37
                any news on that?
                our story.

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                02.02.2012 - When we got married and closed the distance once and for all

                "If it is important to you, you will find a way. If not, you'll find an excuse."

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                  #38
                  I am 22 and he was 33, although we didn't discuss age until a bit later on. Neither seemed to be interested.

                  I reread our conversations, and yes, he does say (somewhat recently before he stopped talking) that he was in a relationship like this before, and he got really burned, and it made him cry a lot. He wanted her to move to him with her two kids,and she didn't want to, or couldn't. He did try to warn me of this a few times before he left me.

                  So stop being so negative. Yes, it's possible he was an asshole. If he was, I have a backup plan for that. If not, I can either have an affair with him every year, or I can marry him, or we can date and maybe break up and just be friends or musical partners even. what's wrong with at least trying? And if he was an asshole, maybe next time he'll think twice before playing around- afraid maybe he'll get in big trouble more often, and he might not do it.

                  I appreaciate all the skepticism, but, yes, I have looked him up, and he is who he says he is, and seems like a kind and genuine person. also,very talented and spiritual. He cries easily, and hasn't seen his mother in ten years. His father died 20 years ago.

                  When I say that he "didn't act at all like the typical player" when we talked, I don't mean he steered clear of all the overt and obvious stereotyupical behaviours. I mean that what he did and talked about would in no way even subconsciously attract a woman or make her think he is a good dating partner. He once told me about how horrible his previous relationships had been, and how she accused him of wanting to marry her so he cuold stay in the US. Who would alert a possibly fish-to-be-hooked about this unattractive detail?

                  I truly belive the problem was that he has had a sad and sorry life and is afraid to get hurt again. I'm sorry, but I choose to believe positive things about francesco Franchini until I learn otherwise. If he is bad, then, I will have all the more raw anger to punish him with.

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                  Originally posted by Engel View Post
                  any news on that?
                  No, and I have stopped trying long ago. In fact, I dont' want him to contact me, for 2 possible reasons:

                  1. When I show up near him, I want it to be as momentous as possible, and maybe he will, having had time off me, be seduced all over again.
                  2. If he is an asshole, he wont' have time to prepare, and it will come as a shock to him and be more painful. If he is an asshole, I will spread bad things about him at his workplace.

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                    #39
                    Is there a reason you can't let this go? If he doesn't want to talk to you, what makes you think he'd be happy to see you? And even if he's an asshole, what gives you the right to try to ruin his reputation at his job?

                    Honestly, you sound like a stalker. I've been stalked, and it's not fun. There's no justification for going after someone who clearly doesn't want contact from you. I don't care what the reason is; if it's because he's been hurt, or if it's because he's an asshole. It's his prerogative to decide who he speaks to and building up some fantasy in your head about how he might be seduced by seeing you isn't healthy. You're more likely to freak him out. My ex tried shit like this on me, and years later it STILL freaks me out.

                    Let it go. Move on to a relationship with someone who actually WANTS to talk to you.

                    And dear god, let go of the revenge ideas.

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                      #40
                      ^ everything she said.

                      Also, you do NOT want to get arrested in Italy. Seriously. And you will be if you just show up and start causing problems. You have no idea what you are getting yourself into. Get over it and move on. You DO sound an awful lot like a stalker.

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                        #41
                        Umm wow. So I'll just put in my 2 cents. Go ahead and go to Italy. But not for him. Go for yourself. Enjoy your time sipping wine and enjoying the food. If he truly loves you he'll be sure to be in contact. If he's anything but, then just enjoy your time alone. Couchsurfing is great. I wouldn't tell him where you are staying though... just in case ya know? Have fun and good luck!

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                          #42
                          Never put the idea of revenge or hatred into the world/universe. It only comes back to you. Even if you've been hurt, always take the higher road. That's just what I believe. If a man hasn't contacted you, DO NOT be the girl to "run after him". This is unhealthy and desperate. If you really do love him, despite the short amount of time knowing him, then you would want him to be happy - with or without you. Focus on YOU, on your life, on loving yourself. If he really does love you, he'll work through his struggles (we all have to work through our struggles on our own, learn our lessons on our own, etc), and he'll be in contact with you. At that point, you can decide if you want to move forward with a friendship with him or let him know that you aren't interested anymore. Just don't show up in his country, unannounced, with your purpose to either seduce him or ruin his life. You have better things to do, I promise.

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                            #43
                            Honestly, I think most of you are wrong. I think it IS right, and IS healthy to punish someone who has hurt you. this doesnt necessarily mean vengeance, but it means that if Person A harms Person B, Person B shouldn't just have to take his lot in life and should have recourse to stop the offender so he doesn't hurt others, and to make life fair- life isn't fair by nature, and this is why I am a believer in penalty and karma. Sorry, not gonna change there.


                            I also think it is kind of silly to put his wishes above mine. I mean, why is everyone saying things like, "If he doesn't want to talk to you, then he doesn't want to talk to you, and you have to accept that he has chosen to give up on the relationship." "Who are you to force a relationship on him if he doesn't want it?" "Shouldn't you respect what he wants, which is to break up?" "He knows what is best for him, don't force your wishes."

                            This is bull. Perhaps MY wishes are valid/important/what he really needs and wants. Perhaps I know what's right in this situation. Perhaps if I go after him (Oops! I mean STAAAALLLKKKK!") then all will turn out for the best, and he will enter a relationship with me that he really needs and was foolishly running away from. Who knows, if he doesn't want a relationship, maybe we could just have an annual affair every year. You never know.


                            As for the talk that I sound like a stalker? No. Stalking must include intent to harm. I do not intend to harm him. If he has done something wrong to me, that's different, he deserves it, or it at least it wouldn't be defined as stalking. What is with Americans/modern people and calling everything "STALKING!!!!!" do you think it makes you sound cool, or smart abotu psychology, or all-hip-and-trendy-and-modern-and-cool-because-you-reject-any-hint-of-classic-romance-or-vibrant-emotions? Is this some TV/Joy Behar/bitchy feminist/"I HATE LOVE"/"eewww! FEEELINGS!" sort of psychological immaturity?

                            the accusation of "OMG!!!! STALKER!!!!!" tells more about your psychology than it does about mine. People unwilling to face their emotions, to face the truth, and to face the consequences of their actions towards other people they've hurt use the term "SSSHHHTAWWWWWKKEEEEEERRRRR!!" to justify their "right" not to be annoyed by a confrontation (with reality and with the importance of other people's feelings) and to ignore what they've done.

                            It is also a direct opposition to the idea that life shoudl be romantic, that people shold care, adn that feelings, not "practicality", should be honored. People who fear "stalkers" are ones who fear feelings, vibrancy, and caring "too much" about things in life. Sorry, but I don't take stock in such "people".

                            Sorry, the "EEEEEKKKKKS!!! STALKERRRR!!!!!!" thing is a little too reality show/armchair psychology for me.


                            There was a comment I agreed on here, however, something along the lines of "go for yourself, not for Francesco." THAT is exactly what I want to do. The whole reason we "met' in the first place is because I was planning a trip to Europe, and trust me, I have a lot of plans as to what to do there if he doesn't answer me back, I can't find him, or he is an asshole (or, hey, even if he does love me- I can still do my own thing in additino after all). I wanted to make a film documantary about Italy and study the obscure villages and culture there, including the geography.

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                              #44
                              Also, here are some select quotes from him, shortly before he stopped talking: (keep in mind that I contacted HIM first on languageexchange, he didn't contact me)

                              "cass fra What do we do when I have to leave??
                              7/1/2011 12:13:42 PM fra cass don't ask me that, please
                              7/1/2011 12:13:45 PM fra cass not now
                              7/1/2011 12:13:49 PM fra cass let's live day by day
                              7/1/2011 12:14:03 PM fra cass we don't know the future, we don't need to know it now
                              7/1/2011 12:14:18 PM cass fra yes, true
                              7/1/2011 12:14:27 PM fra cass let's think about when you'll fly here,ok?
                              7/1/2011 12:14:28 PM cass fra I am afraid to fall in love with you but hardly ever see yuo
                              7/1/2011 12:14:40 PM fra cass i have the same fear, hon
                              7/1/2011 12:14:45 PM cass fra that menas we care
                              7/1/2011 12:14:53 PM fra cass sure
                              7/1/2011 12:14:59 PM fra cass we'll handle it, somehow
                              7/1/2011 12:15:06 PM cass fra yes, time will tell
                              7/1/2011 12:15:34 PM fra cass i told you the other night
                              7/1/2011 12:16:07 PM cass fra told me waht?
                              7/1/2011 12:16:09 PM cass fra time will tell?
                              7/1/2011 12:16:39 PM fra cass i told you asbout me being afraid to fall in love with you and miss you to death, remember
                              7/1/2011 12:16:50 PM fra cass about a long distance relationship, my experience, etc
                              7/1/2011 12:17:04 PM cass fra yes, aI remember that
                              7/1/2011 12:17:04 PM cass fra I
                              7/1/2011 12:17:07 PM fra cass and you told me you'll often come here
                              7/1/2011 12:17:12 PM cass fra yes, I can manage
                              7/1/2011 12:17:21 PM cass fra I am good at finding cheap ways to do things
                              7/1/2011 12:17:37 PM cass fra honestly, at this point, I would be willing to stowaway and sneak in illigally if I had to
                              7/1/2011 12:17:40 PM fra cass yeah, and you'll stay home with me, so everything will be cheap
                              7/1/2011 12:17:45 PM cass fra yes, yes!
                              7/1/2011 12:17:54 PM fra cass there's no need to do sdomething illegaly, hon
                              7/1/2011 12:17:56 PM cass fra I will sneak back into the US and visit my familt for cheap
                              7/1/2011 12:17:58 PM cass fra true true
                              7/1/2011 12:18:24 PM fra cass we'll see what happens, hon, by the time
                              7/1/2011 12:18:28 PM fra cass without rushing
                              7/1/2011 12:18:36 PM cass fra good idea
                              7/1/2011 12:18:40 PM fra cass at least we'll try it
                              7/1/2011 12:18:42 PM cass fra if we love each other, it will find a way
                              7/1/2011 12:19:07 PM cass fra better we stay together and barely see each other than break up just because we can't physically be together
                              7/1/2011 12:19:12 PM cass fra that is, if we are truly in love
                              7/1/2011 12:20:23 PM cass fra I think we are
                              7/1/2011 12:20:32 PM cass fra and I think we will be able to see each other often
                              7/1/2011 12:20:39 PM cass fra I will stya in Italy with you eventually, don't worry
                              7/1/2011 12:22:16 PM fra cass i would love it
                              7/1/2011 12:22:28 PM cass fra me too
                              7/1/2011 12:22:31 PM cass fra who needs USA?
                              7/1/2011 12:22:35 PM fra cass well, yes, but when you don't date often (which doesn't mean everyday), it's hard to make it work
                              7/1/2011 12:22:55 PM fra cass i'm telling you this based on my experience, i think i'm a bit older than you, even if you don't tell me your age
                              7/1/2011 12:23:03 PM fra cass which i hope you will, just because you have nothing to hide
                              cass fra 22
                              7/1/2011 12:23:07 PM fra cass and i love you anyway
                              7/1/2011 12:23:15 PM cass fra but 62 in my maturity
                              7/1/2011 12:23:22 PM cass fra everyone thinks I am old woman!
                              7/1/2011 12:23:23 PM fra cass no, less than that
                              7/1/2011 12:23:33 PM fra cass i thyought you were 25 or so, yes
                              7/1/2011 12:23:41 PM cass fra people older than me often come to me for advice, think I am 35
                              7/1/2011 12:23:49 PM cass fra but maybe it's way I wear hair
                              7/1/2011 12:24:05 PM cass fra up in a bun sometimes, because when it is hot and humid I do not like id down
                              7/1/2011 12:24:29 PM cass fra I am not too young, right?
                              7/1/2011 12:24:32 PM cass fra
                              7/1/2011 12:24:52 PM cass fra
                              7/1/2011 12:24:59 PM fra cass no your're not
                              7/1/2011 12:25:01 PM fra cass you're finew
                              7/1/2011 12:25:23 PM fra cass tight hug to you, and french kiss to your beautiful lips
                              7/1/2011 12:25:24 PM cass fra thank yuo
                              7/1/2011 12:25:33 PM cass fra our tongues playing sweetly together
                              7/1/2011 12:25:38 PM fra cass si...
                              7/1/2011 12:25:46 PM cass fra I wish Americna man were this romantic!!!!
                              7/1/2011 12:25:46 PM fra cass i hope i'm not too old for you
                              7/1/2011 12:25:49 PM cass fra not at all
                              7/1/2011 12:25:56 PM cass fra as I said, I must really be 62!
                              7/1/2011 12:26:07 PM cass fra adults used to say I was "an old soul"
                              7/1/2011 12:26:19 PM fra cass that's one of the reasons why i like you
                              7/1/2011 12:26:20 PM cass fra and I always preferred the company of older people, because people here act immature.
                              7/1/2011 12:26:28 PM fra cass you're not a stupid 22 years old chick
                              7/1/2011 12:26:36 PM cass fra 32 year olds play video games and don't work and live in parent basement, and go to club and bar
                              7/1/2011 12:26:49 PM fra cass you're a smart, caring, sweet and attractive woman
                              7/1/2011 12:26:51 PM cass fra and dont talk to each other because they are wearing wrong hairstyle
                              7/1/2011 12:26:53 PM cass fra grazie
                              7/1/2011 12:26:58 PM cass fra and spiritua
                              7/1/2011 12:26:59 PM cass fra l
                              7/1/2011 12:27:02 PM fra cass sure
                              7/1/2011 12:27:19 PM fra cass you're not superficial, and i love it
                              7/1/2011 12:27:21 PM cass fra when I was little I used to try to be like Jesus
                              7/1/2011 12:27:24 PM cass fra perfect
                              7/1/2011 12:27:31 PM cass fra superficial is the perfect word
                              7/1/2011 12:27:54 PM cass fra I used to go around preaching to classmates, used to tell the janitor not to kill bugs that had wandered in,
                              7/1/2011 12:28:06 PM cass fra used to stick up for the littler kids against bullies adn teachers
                              7/1/2011 12:28:19 PM cass fra francy, show me some little kid pictures of yourself
                              7/1/2011 12:28:41 PM cass fra scan and upload sometime, I want to see baby Francesco so much!
                              7/1/2011 12:29:08 PM fra cass ahaha, ok
                              7/1/2011 12:29:13 PM fra cass i don't have a scanner home
                              7/1/2011 12:29:17 PM cass fra oh, ok
                              7/1/2011 12:29:18 PM fra cass i will do that next week at work, ok?
                              7/1/2011 12:29:20 PM cass fra never mind
                              7/1/2011 12:29:22 PM cass fra good idea
                              7/1/2011 12:29:24 PM fra cass i love you, i gotta log off, sorry
                              7/1/2011 12:29:33 PM fra cass doin't go away, i'll be back in some minutes
                              7/1/2011 12:29:36 PM cass fra I will send you mine, I have been meaning to scan them to keep them safe anyway
                              7/1/2011 12:29:43 PM cass fra (what if there is a fire at my house, flood, etc)
                              7/1/2011 12:29:46 PM fra cass ciao, my sweet Cassandra
                              7/1/2011 12:29:47 PM cass fra ok I will see you soon!
                              7/1/2011 12:29:53 PM cass fra I love you, mio dolce Francesco!"

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                                #45
                                Is there a reason you can't let this go?

                                Um, yeah. I'm, in love.

                                If he doesn't want to talk to you, what makes you think he'd be happy to see you?
                                Because he probably wants to talk to me, but fears that if he does, he'll enter another painful long term long distance realtionship which cannot work.

                                And even if he's an asshole, what gives you the right to try to ruin his reputation at his job?
                                Because if he has the right to ruin my feelings, don't I have the right to ruin his job? and wont' it maybe stop him from ever being bold enough to try to do it again? we need to stand up for hurt persons, not tell them to "Forgive..."

                                Honestly, you sound like a stalker.
                                Honestly, you sound like a reality show/Oprah addict. Falling in love and rightfully wanting what was promised you is not stalking, any more than showing up at your client's house to collect money yuo were promised is.

                                There's no justification for going after someone who clearly doesn't want contact from you.
                                Yeah, there kind of is- a promise. You keep your promises. Break up with me like a man, or else be a little "annoyed".

                                It's his prerogative to decide who he speaks to.
                                No, lying and not wanting to face the consequences is NOT his prerogative. You fool around with fire, expect to be burned.

                                and building up some fantasy in your head about how he might be seduced by seeing you isn't healthy.
                                Being romantic is not healthy? Trying to achieve something I desire and wanting to fight the odds of mundanity isn't healthy? Maybe it's not healthy, but it's what makes the world go round. Achievement, wanting, trying, reaching.

                                You're more likely to freak him out. My ex tried shit like this on me, and years later it STILL freaks me out.
                                See, 40 or 50 years ago, it would not be considered "freaky", but romantic and dashing. Sorry if you have had "omg, everything romantic is SOOOOO creeeeeepyyyyyy and ickyyyyyy! Pink is eeeevviiiillll!" ideas pumped into you by the defeatist media. Besides, he is a very romantic and fun guy. He was so in love with a woman from Canada once that he tried to study the border on mapquest to see if he cuold sneak in.


                                Let it go. Move on to a relationship with someone who actually WANTS to talk to you.
                                there are many wonderful partners out there, agreed. But I'll never know if I don't go and find out what happened to Francesco...
                                and, hey, it does make for an awesome story- a girl going to Italy to find her lost love.

                                And dear god, let go of the revenge ideas.
                                Sorry, friend. Not doing that. I'm a pagan, not a Christian. Revenge is just as valid as love, charity, faith, truth, modesty, and all such things for me. Besides, if I can get over being hurt by him, can't he "just get over" having a little revenge done to him, which, on top of that, he DESERVES?

                                Thank you for your reply, however misguided it may be....

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