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    Best way to try and spend up to a year in the US?

    Hey guys, more of a throwing it out there thread for you again, but I figure due to potential visa application waiting times its never to early to research.

    So my girl is going to University next year (i.e. moving out of state etc), and the ideal plan is to try and spend the 2nd year living with her, with the potential for her to study abroad here during her third year. No plans set in stone or anything, just an idea we both put forward and one we'd love to be able to make happen.

    The study abroad year for her would be no problem as we've looked and a good few University's near me do international study year schemes compatible with her Uni. So thats no problem providing she would want to come over for a year.

    The issue is trying to work it the other way, me spending an extended time over there. I guess my options are;

    - Attempt to find a job there/work abroad scheme that'll let me stay for up to 18 months. Possible I guess, but would absolutely have to be within commuting distance of her (and via public transport likely as well, which I know isn't so good in the US) which limits that a fair bit.

    - Visitor Visa. As far as im aware, there is a visa (B2 or something) that would allow me to stay for up to 180 days? I believe I read that can be extended too. The issue being I wouldn't be able to work, and I think you have to prove you have the financial means to cover yourself.

    - Apply for a course at the same Uni. I guess is possible? It would be a masters (as I graduated this past year). The main issue here being passing application and having the money to pay for the course, and courses are much more expensive there than they are here.

    - Just visit often on the VWP. Try to visit close to the 90 day limit if possible as regularly as possible. Downsides being I would have to spend extended periods here inbetween visits, it's all very bitty and wouldn't really work with a full-time job. Possible suspicion from Immigration about how much time im spending there on the VWP.


    Just looking for ideas guys. Got a fair bit of time to try and figure something out as the first year she'll be in halls likely, so living with her isn't feasible, so we'd hope to aim for an extended visit for her 2nd year (Sept/Oct 2014 on, a while off yet and this is very forward thinking, but like I said better to be prepared than rush it late!). Like I said just an idea we had, seeing if there's a realistic way to make it possible. Any ideas how we could do it?

    #2
    Your best bet would be the tourist B visa that allows you to stay for 6 months. There are some extensions on those you may be able to apply for. Since you're planning to be away for a year, why not look for a job and close the distance there?

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      #3
      Originally posted by 13000km View Post
      Your best bet would be the tourist B visa that allows you to stay for 6 months. There are some extensions on those you may be able to apply for. Since you're planning to be away for a year, why not look for a job and close the distance there?
      Yeah I figure that's probably the best bet, with me saving up this next year and a half to be able to pay for it. The only issue there I guess would be figuring out how to stay with her, if it was the full year we could try renting somewhere for that year for ourselves, but I figure she'll share with friends when it gets to it if we cant do that, and there are issues with people staying somewhere for so long, who aren't tenants. Well there are in the UK anyways, figure it'll be the same but I'll check it.

      A job would be the ideal way to do it, problem would be getting one lol. I could get something seasonal, but that wouldn't really cover the time she's at Uni. Securing something more permanent would be a task, but you've not only gotta secure it via the application etc, the company has to prove they dont have an American to fill the role. I've looked into internships a bit, and they can last up to 18 months, but again it's gotta be one specifically near where she'll be.

      Or I could marry her when I visit and it wont be an issue by 2014 then hopefully .

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        #4
        Or I could marry her when I visit and it wont be an issue by 2014 then hopefully .
        I am not sure whether you were kidding or not (xD), but I simply wanted to point out that this could complicate things, also, especially since in going to the U.S., you have to prove your intention is not setting out to get married to stay in the country. Simply wanted to say that there are some risk factors to getting hitched on a visa where the terms are such that you're setting out to secure citisenship or get married illegally.
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          #5
          Originally posted by Eclaire View Post
          I am not sure whether you were kidding or not (xD), but I simply wanted to point out that this could complicate things, also, especially since in going to the U.S., you have to prove your intention is not setting out to get married to stay in the country. Simply wanted to say that there are some risk factors to getting hitched on a visa where the terms are such that you're setting out to secure citisenship or get married illegally.
          Haha, it was indeed more of a joke . Obviously in the long term we're looking to get married and it's something we've talked about even at this stage, but I figure it wouldn't be for a fair while yet.

          Just to reply to it with the serious side, I believe you can get married on the VWP, as long as you're not staying, and then apply for a spouse visa. Or you apply for a K-1 visa which allows you to marry and then stay as you adjust your status. But yeah it was more of a joke that getting married say next year or whatever would make this whole thread a non-issue, cause I could just work it out where I could stay there. Dont think we'll be going down the aisle just yet .

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            #6
            Hm. I mean perhaps it is true that you can get married if you're not staying, but the trick is to prove you're not planning on staying. As far as I know, U.S. immigration are assholes and they'd send you straight back if they knew your intention was to get married or somehow found out. I have simply never heard of that being allowed, but maybe I'm wrong. I know our system is one of the stricter immigration systems, so maybe I'm simply paranoid...

            Either way, I think I would try for the extended visitor visa, if I were you.
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              #7
              Originally posted by Eclaire View Post
              Hm. I mean perhaps it is true that you can get married if you're not staying, but the trick is to prove you're not planning on staying. As far as I know, U.S. immigration are assholes and they'd send you straight back if they knew your intention was to get married or somehow found out. I have simply never heard of that being allowed, but maybe I'm wrong. I know our system is one of the stricter immigration systems, so maybe I'm simply paranoid...

              Either way, I think I would try for the extended visitor visa, if I were you.
              Yeah, I mean its academic for now anyways. I've read a fair few stories on Brit Expat forums about people just travelling over and getting married on the VWP having told immigration and it's all been fine. I think it's just because marriage doesn't grant anything by itself, you have no cause to stay in the country just by being married, so as long as you can prove you're returning then there's nothing wrong with it.

              Yeah it looks like that may be the way to go. Better start saving

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                #8
                Check out goabroad.com and look for jobs/internship/volunteer positions there, they could have something you can do that is close to her . I wish you luck on what ever you decide to do!




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                  #9
                  Actually - and this coming from my immigration lawyer friend (and I have a colleague that's done this), there is a "loophole" where you can get married in the US AND stay...but you have to prove that your intention was not to get married, that you just fell madly in love and decided to get married on a whim. You won't be able to leave the country until your status is adjusted which could be up to a year. Which means you'll have to overstay your visa. It's risky but it's been done.

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                    #10
                    I sometimes wish I had gone over on a vwp, married and stayed. Then again I've been told that I've done it in the correct way, that might be so, but waiting on immigration is a bloody nightmare, your in limbo and the waiting is just awful. So yes I wish I hadn't got married and returned home and applied for the visa......But at the end of the day it's down to the individual and whether your happy to take the risk of getting refused.........




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                      #11
                      You can definitely get married in the US as long as you intend to leave afterwards. That's what my fiance and I are going to do. I think it would get a bit complicated trying to prove you fell madly in love within just a few days or however long you would be here.
                      To answer your question though, I think the best way would be to try to find a job here since you already have a degree. Depending on what your degree is in, you might be considered highly specialized in your area. I don't think studying here would really be worth because I've heard that higher level degrees from the UK are more valuable than higher level degrees from the US. As far as the visitor visas, I don't know know anything about them. My fiance comes over at least twice a year for two weeks, and no one has ever said anything about it. I've gone to the UK for longer amounts of time though, and they always get onto me for the amount of time I stay. It guess it all depends on who you get. Good luck on working everything out!
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