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    #31
    please. this was not intended as a place to discuss car accidents in the US-or their causes. this started out as seatbelts on airplanes. it was funny when it got to toilets, but honestly, i have no idea how it even got to car accidents.


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      #32
      I can't even believe this is even a conversation. . .

      paying for toilets won't lower taxes. . .

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        #33
        Originally posted by lucybelle View Post
        I can't even believe this is even a conversation. . .

        paying for toilets won't lower taxes. . .

        Oh gosh!!!

        I was just thinking how freaking funny that sentence would be read without having read the past pages of the thread!!!




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          #34
          Originally posted by lyonsgirl View Post
          please. this was not intended as a place to discuss car accidents in the US-or their causes. this started out as seatbelts on airplanes. it was funny when it got to toilets, but honestly, i have no idea how it even got to car accidents.
          It was brought up about how much safer cars are then planes. I show how that is a moot point and now it is off topic? Follow the line of thought and read the entire posts. It is like comparing apples to oranges. The whole thing is about whether seat belts should be mandatory as they are in cars in most places. How on Earth is that not revelant???
          Also the toilets are directly from the OP's article. Threads drift to make different POA's. It is part of the fun of posting.
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            #35
            Originally posted by Hollandia View Post
            It was brought up about how much safer cars are then planes. I show how that is a moot point and now it is off topic? Follow the line of thought and read the entire posts. It is like comparing apples to oranges. The whole thing is about whether seat belts should be mandatory as they are in cars in most places. How on Earth is that not revelant???
            Also the toilets are directly from the OP's article. Threads drift to make different POA's. It is part of the fun of posting.
            The last thing I'm going to say is that there are still more automobile accidents that don't involve drunk driving than there are plane crashes. That was my entire argument, that we don't stress putting seatbelts on trains, buses, etc., more dangerous methods of transportation based on sheer numbers and frequency, but someone suggests planes no longer have them and people freak.
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              #36
              Planes when taking off and landing go at a higher speed than a car or train does. Also when taking off and landing in a plane it tilts so I'd like to know how on earth the people who were standing would stand up without falling over? I think this is a crazy idea. A few weeks ago there was a documentary aired here in England that was about a plane crashing. It was a controlled crash and you got to choose where you would like to be seated on the plane, then later on they would tell you if you survived or not. Anyway they did say that wearing seatbelts does save lives...




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                #37
                Originally posted by lucybelle View Post
                I can't even believe this is even a conversation. . .

                paying for toilets won't lower taxes. . .

                It would certainly be extra income to help not my country that is BLEEDING money right now. One that would be pure profit to obtain, why is that so hard to comprehend? Let us do some math, shall we?
                Let is just say that the Porta a potties are charging .65 cents a piece and they are used about 200-250 times a day. That would be 126.00-237.00 dollars a day per potty. Now multiply that times 365 days and you get..............45,990-86,505 dollars a year per potty....... still laughing???

                I would not turn it down. You take income where you can. Waste disposal is big business, why should this be any different.

                And before you say this is OT. It is directly related to the OP article on whether or not it is acceptable for him to charge for use of toilets on the planes.
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Hollandia View Post
                  It was brought up about how much safer cars are then planes.
                  I agree with that, but then you brought in the whole drunk-driving aspect. You keep saying "it's comparing apples to oranges", and yet you've brought up drunk-driving and the car accident statistics from it, and then compared that to how that's an impossibility on an airplane. That's how this got off topic.


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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Eclaire View Post
                    The last thing I'm going to say is that there are still more automobile accidents that don't involve drunk driving than there are plane crashes. That was my entire argument, that we don't stress putting seatbelts on trains, buses, etc., more dangerous methods of transportation based on sheer numbers and frequency, but someone suggests planes no longer have them and people freak.
                    Who freaked? I stated my opinion. I would not risk my life for it. There are also many more cars on the road than there are planes in the air at any given time. Once again, it is apples to oranges. You crash your car and you stand a better chance to live without a seat belt than if your plane crash lands and you don't.

                    I did also agree that buses and trains and taxis too, btw, should all require them.
                    Last edited by Hollandia; November 9, 2012, 04:33 PM.
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by lyonsgirl View Post
                      I agree with that, but then you brought in the whole drunk-driving aspect. You keep saying "it's comparing apples to oranges", and yet you've brought up drunk-driving and the car accident statistics from it, and then compared that to how that's an impossibility on an airplane. That's how this got off topic.

                      This is and always has been very much on topic.
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                        #41
                        Okay, just wanted to say: cars may have more accidents, but I'd rather die on ground rather than 1000 feet from the freakin' air. No way jose. With that said, seat-belts are supposed to keep your head from being impacted and crushed around from so much trauma in an accident, no matter which vehicle you're in. Seat belts can save lives. I cannot count how many times I've heard of fatalities where they involved people not being in a seat belt, so I cannot understand why this is something of a debate for planes. I simply can't.
                        Last edited by ST25; November 9, 2012, 04:46 PM.

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by lyonsgirl View Post
                          I agree with that, but then you brought in the whole drunk-driving aspect. You keep saying "it's comparing apples to oranges", and yet you've brought up drunk-driving and the car accident statistics from it, and then compared that to how that's an impossibility on an airplane. That's how this got off topic.
                          I brought it up to debunk that point. It is on topic. You cannot use the auto stat and then claim it is off topic when somebody uses other stats to debunk it.
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                              #44
                              Originally posted by lucybelle View Post
                              I had hoped you would not resort to name calling. This is a tool that people use when they don't have a good POA anymore. I won't lower myself to that type of stuff. By all means if you want to buy a SRO ticket when it is available ....have a blast. I will be in a seat with a seat beat.
                              Last edited by Hollandia; November 9, 2012, 04:49 PM.
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