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    #46
    Funny how we have civilized conversations about abortion, politics, cheating, culture, etc. but seat belts and toilets become a problem.
    Our separation of each other is an optical illusion of consciousness. ~Albert Einstein

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      #47
      I have no problem. I just don't name call because somebody disagrees with my POA. I don't respect it.
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        #48
        Originally posted by Moon View Post
        Funny how we have civilized conversations about abortion, politics, cheating, culture, etc. but seat belts and toilets become a problem.
        Too true!

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          #49
          Originally posted by Moon
          I was not speaking specifically about you, just an observation of the topic as a whole. No need to be defensive about it.
          Not being defensive. Stating a fact.
          "Remember not only to say the right thing in the right place, but far more difficult still, to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment. "
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            #50
            Seatbelts and toilets are vital issues, we do not joke around on that sh!t.

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              #51
              Originally posted by Hollandia View Post
              Not being defensive. Stating a fact.
              I was merely making a lighthearted diversion, I can see you're the type who must always have the last word about everything though, so go ahead.
              I'll bow out now.
              Our separation of each other is an optical illusion of consciousness. ~Albert Einstein

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                #52
                Originally posted by Moon View Post
                I was merely making a lighthearted diversion, I can see you're the type who must always have the last word about everything though, so go ahead.
                I'll bow out now.
                I am no such type. I took offense to the other poster calling me crazy or a cuckcoo. You jumped on and stated how there was such a problem. It appeared fairly evident to be regarding part of the debate I was involved in. Then you called me defensive. I am done with this thread too as long as nobody calls me anymore names I won't be back to it. If they do, I will defend myself.
                "Remember not only to say the right thing in the right place, but far more difficult still, to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment. "
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                  #53
                  Originally posted by Hollandia View Post
                  Who freaked? I stated my opinion. I would not risk my life for it. There are also many more cars on the road than there are planes in the air at any given time. Once again, it is apples to oranges. You crash your car and you stand a better chance to live without a seat belt than if your plane crash lands and you don't.

                  I did also agree that buses and trains and taxis too, btw, should all require them.
                  I never said you freaked.
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                    #54
                    I don't know what the shit went down in this thread while I was sleeping, but I'm not going to read all the way through it to find out either. >.>

                    To the original question -

                    I'd do it, hands down. The guy seems like an arsehole, but he's right about one thing. I want to get from point A to point B and I don't want to pay through the nose to do it. There was a thread a while back about new seating, like you were practically half standing, and the seat was like a saddle - and I said I'd go for that too. I'm all for not wasting money.

                    I wonder if they'd let you sit on the floor or anything though. I've only ever been on one short flight (I think it was like 3 hours?) and all my other flights have been long haul to Canadia, so I can't really fathom only being on a plane 40 minutes or what that's like. But yeah, I'm all for it.
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                      #55
                      Originally posted by Hollandia View Post
                      Come on?
                      You don't believe that do you?

                      How much do you think it costs to clean a bathroom? If all the funds went to a high interest earning savings account and was allocated correctly it could most definitely help, though they will never actually do it.

                      I know what they are being used for now, but they could be used in so many more productive ways. I went to a festival in the park and it had thousands of people there. The porta a potties were all 50cent a use. The lines were non stop and they most have had at least 30 port a potties. I am pretty sure they made a tidy( no pun intended, but still funny, tidy-bowl anyone? ) little profit on the "cleaning" of those bad boys.
                      The money won't be allocated correctly though. It's only going to fatten the pockets of the owners of the venue that hosts the bathrooms.

                      And in Estonia, after a movie has finished the first person will pay the money to open the door and then somebody else will hold the door open so everybody else can go in free. Awkward

                      Interestingly, Australia does NOT charge for the use of toilets. The only real exception is at restaurants, where you need to make a purchase. Then again, the higher taxes would easily make the difference.

                      And on topic of the Ryanair guy, this would only occur on short-haul flights.

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by Tooki View Post
                          And on topic of the Ryanair guy, this would only occur on short-haul flights.
                          Oh...phew, I was getting worried there for a second. Not like I would be using his airlines anyway...I'll take my commercial airlines, thank you very much.

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                            #58
                            Interestingly, Australia does NOT charge for the use of toilets. The only real exception is at restaurants, where you need to make a purchase.
                            Yep and that's my problem with charging toilets on planes. I make a purchase. I buy a plane ticket so I should have the right to use the toilet free of charge. Nobody would ever think of charging the bathroom at a restaurant where you make a purchase. Why on planes?

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by Kiyama View Post
                              Yep and that's my problem with charging toilets on planes. I make a purchase. I buy a plane ticket so I should have the right to use the toilet free of charge. Nobody would ever think of charging the bathroom at a restaurant where you make a purchase. Why on planes?
                              I agree! They already charge you through the nose for snacks and in some cases, drinks as well.
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                                #60
                                I guess I don't really count because I'd never be flying in/to Europe but I think it's a cool idea. If a plane is going to crash, chances are most of the people on it are going to die anyways regardless of a seat belt so I mean why not. If you think a seat belt will save you, buy a seated ticket. If you don't really care and want to save money like me, go for it! I wonder if they'd let you bring a little fold-able chair haha.

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